qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.

Mon Jun 28 19:30:51 EDT 2004

If I were to move up, it would be to a multihull.  A Dragonfly 800 folding
trimaran would be nice for something that's still trailerable.  For a world
cruiser, I'd like to have a Fountaine Pajot 40 cruising catamaran.

Regarding the inclusion of other boats on the Rhodes list.  If it's just a
few "foreign" boats & their owners, especially if they were previous Rhodes
22 owners; then, I guess I don't have a problem with it.  If the topic is
something I'm not interested in; then, I can just hit delete & move on.
However, if the postings for, from, & about other boats come to dominate the
list; then, I would have a problem with that.  What's the threshhold where
this "extraineous" traffic becomes a problem?  Oh, I don't know, perhaps a
sustained level of 30-40% of the traffic on the list.  The level of
extraineous traffic on the list in the last several weeks has been
noticable; but, not really a problem for me.  However, I wouldn't want to
see the extraineous fraction rise much higher than it's been lately.  If I
wanted to subscribe to general boating list, that's what I would have done.
I don't feel strongly about the issue; but, if the majority on the list were
in favor of a Rhodes only rule, I would support it.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at verizon.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:37 AM
Subject: qestion and RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.

> I'm with Mark on this. I'd hate to have to subscribe to 5 or 6 different
> lists to find out what my buds, the former Rhodies are up to. The Seaward
> RK 26 appears to be a logical move up from an R22, though it appears that
> 36 & 37 footers are currently popular.
>
> So here's a question for all the Rhodies out there, if you were to move up
> (over or down) - what would your next boat be and why? One of the main
> reasons we've stayed small is the ease of maintenance. We like having a
> boat on the Chesapeake that we can haul home for the winter. We've talked
> about retiring down near the Bay and that has brought consideration of a
> bigger boat. Right now I've been looking at Tartan 28s. Supposedly good
> sailing, Sparkman & Stevens design, nice deck layout (with the exception
of
> the bridgedeck traveller which would take some getting used to), good
> cockpit, good engine access, good interior layout and some are even
> available tiller-steered. Seems like a nice boat for a couple who still
> would want to do a lot of daysailing but might want to take off on longer
> trips.
>
> Anyone else want to take a stab at this?
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
>
>
> At 07:42 AM 6/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >Michael,
> >
> >Bob and Nancy Quinn are the ones w/ the Tartan 37 - Julie and I have a
> >Tayana 37.
> >
> >And my two cents worth on this topic - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If
> >we can allow the political rants we've seen, surely we can allow boats
other
> >than the R22 to be discussed, as well.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> >Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:46 AM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >
> >
> >I can agree with this :-), mjm does not like to work more than the next
man.
> >I have to admit I do find the topic a little strange, I
> >figured this might have been a problem and asked a few months ago, it
seemed
> >that most were ok with it, now that it is a fact, some
> >of the same people have a problem. OK, I am sitting druming my fingures
on
> >what to do, like I have a question about the macys fire
> >works/hellgate/anchorage ,an other about puting on names and have I a
answer
> >about "centen". Should I even bother asking or
> >answering?  Next problem if people did not want me here who should I hand
> >the list over to, Mark a 37 tartan, Will is a seaward 26
> >and so and I, they will be subject the same "problem".  Now sailnet or
yahoo
> >groups would work but they have thier warts. Resomable
> >people made a resonable statement/request, My problem is I am human too
and
> >feel a little rejected, just do not have the hart to
> >deal with the list tonight.
> >
> >MJM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:57 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> >
> >
> > > I agree, heck this list doesn't have much traffic as it is. Why make
MJM
> > > have to work any harder supporting two lists. Maybe Rummy was going to
run
> > > the new server. ;-)
> > >
> > > PS Ric - I went sailing Saturday and Sunday.
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > > >Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:57:14 -0400
> > > >
> > > >As a regular reader and occasional contributor, I too gave some
thought
> >to
> > > >space taken up by the Seaward dialog, and also came to some
conclusions.
> > > >
> > > >I happen to agree that it is the people that makes this list what it
is.
> > > >The discussion of a 'foreign' boat isn't much different than the
> >political
> > > >and sports discussions that get going on the list.  It all makes up
the
> > > >character of this list, and often provides excellent food for
thought.
> >The
> > > >biggest improvement to the management of the list has been the
discipline
> > > >I've seen everyone use in keeping the subject line on topic.
> > > >
> > > >Although I'd move up to the (Still Only A Dream) Rhodes 26, this
> >afternoon
> > > >if I could, I like hearing the experiences people are having with
other
> > > >boats, Flicka, Seaward, classic runabouts, Rhodes 19 etc.  These are
> >people
> > > >I've come to know and their comments, positive and negative, go a
long
> >way
> > > >in influencing my choices and opinions.
> > > >
> > > >I also think that a lot of the chatter about the Seaward will settle
down
> > > >after the boats are delivered and get sorted out.  These people still
> >have
> > > >a
> > > >lot of good Rhodes experience to share with the group. I'd hate to
have
> > > >them
> > > >feel unwelcome, because they are sailing something else, at the
moment.
> > > >
> > > >There is something to be said about the GBI umbrella too.
> > > >
> > > >Dan Bodnar
> > > >SV; QOL, '92 Rhodes 22
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> > > >Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:02 PM
> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Just a thought.
> > > >
> > > >Rummy and all,
> > > >
> > > >Yeah, you are right about the traffic on the Seaward. BUT, I was
thinking
> > > >about this too. True this list is named the R22 list, but when we
really
> > > >think about it, isn't it really more like the "I bought a boat from
Stan
> > > >and/or Elton list"?? In my estimation we (at least I) are here more
> >because
> > > >our friends, or people we know are here, than because of which brand
of
> > > >boat we have. I know there are other Seaward forums already and I'm
sure
> > > >most who are migrating to the 26 probably are already communicating
on
> > > >those as well. I also belong to the Flicka 20 list, but I still come
here
> > > >because I like you Rummy, as well as a lot of other folks on the
list.
> > > >Also, this list tends to be a little less full of the topic police
than
> > > >most and is more fun to be around because the topic tends to vary
from
> >day
> > > >to day.
> > > >
> > > >I can't say if this diversity is a good thing or a bad thing for the
> >list.
> > > >I suppose opinion on this will vary from one person to the next. For
me
> > > >(yes I know I'm now an outsider) coming here is more about staying in
> >touch
> > > >with my friends than talking about a specific boat.
> > > >
> > > >Just my 2 cents worth, probably wasn't worth that much though. :-)
> > > >
> > > >Hey, somebody sail a little bit for me. Let me know where we went.
I'm
> > > >working again this weekend.....as usual.
> > > >
> > > >Rik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 09:07 AM 6/26/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >I have waited several weeks before writing this post, so a little
bit
> >of
> > > > >thought has gone into writing this.
> > > > >I have noticed that the amount of mail concerning the new RK26 is
> > > > >overwhelming the list. Not that this is a bad thing, it's just that
I
> > > > >don't have  any
> > > > >interest in it.
> > > > >I would like to throw up for discussion the possibility of another
list
> > > >for
> > > > >the RK26 owners. It is not a Rhodes design hull and I think they
need a
> > > >new
> > > > >home.
> > > > >
> > > > >Rummy
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