[Rhodes22-list] New Genny - Was Bullshit

[Wally Buck]

Roger,

Didn't bother me, I have to admit I was thinking the same thing 
......remember I am the one who said I furl main (lower boom as well) and my 
125 in 20 plus. I have myself and any crew on the rail. Your earlier post 
regarding different wind speeds and sail plans made sense to me.

I am curious about one of your comments. What is on my boat that would make 
it so much heavier than yours? I suspect my 84 may weigh the same or less 
than yours but I don't know. Do the older ones have less ballast or less 
fiber glass? I know the IMF mast adds weight and all of it up high so this 
would add weight to mine and certainly increase heeling to an extent. Are 
there other construction differences between an 84 and 70s model.

I suspect you might carry more gear than me. My tool box consists of spare 
fuses,spark plug socket, spare plugs, vise grips, a couple of pliers, mulit 
use screw driver, 2 real screw drivers, some cotter pins, multimeter, spare 
wire, various electrical fittings and sail tape. I only carry one small 
anchor, don't have water in the tank, and usually none in the porta potti. 
If you look behind my sliding mirror cabinets you will see empty space. 
Nothing is stored on the little shelf over the galley either. I keep a 
little cooking stuff under the sink but not much ( one small pan). Nothing 
is stored in the v-birth other than spinnaker and bag with rain gear. I do 
have two Group 24 batteries, 2 spotlights, flashlight, and a charger. I do 
not have any solar panels. My laz has 8X10 tarp, extra line of various 
sizes. life jackets, a bucket, bailing pump, and some cleaning supplies. I 
have no wind vane, knot meter or depth gauge. I use a hand held radio and 
have a small stereo. I carry atmost 3 gallons of gas and my outboard weighs 
about 50 pounds. I almost forgot, I do carry some liquid ballast in a cooler 
that I lighten as the day goes on. :-) I also have no bimini.

Now when things warm up and we start over nighting my boat get a little 
heavier. The bedding stays on. I also fill up water tank with about 5 
gallons or so and add water to the porta potti.  I also add a 50 pound 
inflatable kayak and various other gear.

One of these days I just need to get the whole rig weighed.

Now today it is supposed to be blowing near 20 with 30% chance of rain. So 
it is back to the lake.

Wallly



>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Genny - Was Bullshit
>Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:52:55 -0500
>
>Rummy, Wally, et al...
>
>If I offended any of you with the bullshit comment my previous post; then, 
>I apologise.
>
>It is my understanding that GBI upgraded the standard genoa size from 150% 
>to 175% at around the same time as the IMF mainsail & the luxurious (but 
>heavy) cabin interiors became available.  The older Rhodes 22's, like 
>Dynamic Equilibrium, my 1976 model, have always been at their best in light 
>to moderate wind speeds (0 - 15 knots).  As the boat's weight increased and 
>the mainsail area decreased & became less efficient with the IMF mainsail, 
>the increase in genoa size was an attempt by GBI to maintain some sort of 
>light air performance parity with the older models.  However, if anything, 
>it would be expected the 175% genoa would need to start furling at lower 
>wind speeds than the older models; not greater as some of you are claiming.
>
>The Rhodes 22 is a remarkable little boat.  I really enjoy sailing and 
>cruising on Dynamic Equilibrium in all kinds of weather.  But, let's not 
>let our enthusiam for the product prevent us from keeping this discussion 
>grounded in reality.  There isn't a trailerable sailboat made that can 
>carry full sail area upwind in 20 knots and certainly not at the
>[Sail Area] / [Displacement] ratio of the Rhodes 22.  Any trailerable 
>sailboat so undercanvased; that, it could carry full sail area upwind in 20 
>knots, wouldn't be able to get out of its own way in light air.  Gentlemen, 
>what you are claiming is physically impossible, a violation of several laws 
>of physics and aerodynamics.
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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