[Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the Liberal

[Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO]

Steve,

I have a volunteer Lawyer on staff to work on making these programs work. He gets so mad sometimes it seems like I need a drywall repair kit around at all times. If reasonably educated people can't find their way though the maze how do homeless do it. My informal study shows that most of my clients are not homeless because of drugs. Mostly they are people who lived pay check to pay check and misfortune hits and the landlord sent them on their way. Try making a rent payment when you need two months rent in advance. The longer you are homeless the harder it becomes. 

We can argue about which "track" we are on till the cows come home. What I want to hear is do we care about those who are not making it and are we doing our share to help. 


And are we Liberal enough to recognize that reasonable people can disagree about the solution but we caring enough to be the differences aside and help.

And now I need to return to earning a living, Steve at least you care about something, I hate apathy.


 

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Steve
Sent:	Monday, November 29, 2004 3:05 PM
To:	The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject:	RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the Liberal

Don
Let look at this from a more analyical point of view. 


If you fill bankrupcy; do you lose your home? No. 
Therefore, the question is, what did they do to
actually become homeless.  There are many HUD program
for cheap housing.  Shelter Plus Care Programs. 
Weatherization Programs.  Emergency Food Programs. 
Low Income Energy Assistance Programs.  Refugee
Resettlement Programs.  Homeless Assistance Grant
programs.  Aid to Aged,Blind, Disabled program.  TANF
programs.  This is just a few more on top of the ones
I listed before.  

So, why are these people homeless.  And an even bigger
questions, what are they doing for themselves to get
themselves into a home.  

Remember, McDonald is always hiring.  And the man &
women who has children; it is thier responcisbility to
take care of thier children & provide a home.  Not
Government.  But as you can see from the small list I
just quoted; there is really not a reason for people
to be homeless today.  

Some people are lazy and must learn it the hard way. 
Also, you will fine (from all the studies I have read)
that the main cause for the homeless is drugs.  Drug
addiction & alcohol abuse coupled with the notion that
Government should take care of them.  PUt them on the
streets.  

Govenment cannot do everything.  I understand that
liberals think that govenment can but the real answer
is that it CANNOT.  Morally, it should NOT either.  
Steve
 
--- "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
wrote:

> 
> 
> Steve,
> 
> The Homeless shelter has been a real focus of mine
> lately. There is nothing more frightening for a
> family than to be with out a home. There are no TV's
> or dryers or in some cases cars. I have seen the
> faces of the kids who are truly scared for
> themselves and their parents. They take on the guilt
> of the parents and are inconsolable. I send the
> slackers out the door but there are very few of
> them. The need is real and the response from
> government is indifference and confusion. So the
> volunteers make the difference one family at a time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent:	Monday, November 29, 2004 2:36 PM
> To:	The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject:	RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the
> Liberal
> 
> Don
> Your actions as noted below sound sincere.  However,
> lets look at one of your issue. 
> 
> If the economy is so
> > wonderful why is our case loads growing, why is
> the
> > traditional family our best customer. Why is
> > government so uncaring?
> 
> Now this is not critizing your works but lets look
> at
> your above statements.
> 
> We are coming out of a recession that was created by
> Clinton economic policies.  You must verify this on
> your own.  I have stated it in the past.  It is
> verifiable.  The so called traditional family being
> your best customer.  Could it also be that more
> poeple
> who do not need welfare are simple lineing up for
> freebees?  I have seen several news show where there
> are lines of people line up waiting on Commodities
> distributions and I will say that the lines are real
> long.  Watching this on a liberal network; the spin
> is
> how poor everyone is & how they look like the middle
> class.  Switch it over the a more balance network
> where anchor goes over and ask a few questions; here
> are a few of the responces:
> 
> How many TVs in the house? average was 3
> Do you have a microwave? all yes
> Washer & dryer? all yes
> Cable TV? all yes
> How many cars? average was 2
> 
> Just so you know; I am on top of the percentages of
> who is poor & who is not.  The poor are being taken
> care of and there are a great many programs to help
> them get jobs.  Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security,
> all are still here and we even have a new
> entitlement
> under the Bush administration for Drug benefits. 
> The
> Liberals promise it but the Republican delivered.  
> 
> Now again, your good works should be applauded.  I
> do
> my fare share but I won't go into what they are.  My
> points with Wally & Bob are that they are only
> throwing out that liberal goom & doom and that is
> just
> plain nonsence.  You sound like a very smart man & I
> think you can see that this country is on a good
> path
> and it is getting better now that Bush has corrected
> all the policies the Clinton had put in place. 
> Anyway, that liberal gloom & doom doens't cut it
> with
> me.  People can take care of themselves and the ones
> that REALLY can't; this country has program on top
> of
> more programs to help them out.  People must learn
> to
> do for themselves.  Government does not need to be
> in
> the business of wiping people asses.  And my tax
> dollars are NOT needed for that either.
> Steve
> 
> --- "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Steve,
> > 
> > I can remain silent no  longer.
> > 
> > Were is your heart, your compassion?
> > 
> > I am a Liberal in the great American tradition, 
> > that person you seem so to loath.
> > I learned to be a Liberal while serving my country
> > and trying to win the hearts and minds of another.
> > Instead of winning them over to me, they won me
> > over. A great man a lover of peace once told me in
> > the last hours of his life that as imperfect as
> > their life was it was theirs and America need not
> > worry about them as in time they would join the
> > community of nations as a productive partner. 
> This
> > officer of the army of the north was so right and
> > history has proven him true. He told me to go home
> > and help my countrymen. As so I did.
> > 
> > In my spare time I worked at the food bank, and
> the
> > homeless shelters since only action shows the true
> > person. If compassion is to be real there must be
> > action. In the many years I have do this work
> there
> > have been many ups and down and it sometime seen
> > endless. But in the last 3 years the people coming
> > to these services have changed. These are not the
> > typical down and out person but the "there for the
> > grace of God go I" where misfortune has turned to
> > despair.  Formally successful people set a drift.
> > You would think that government should be there to
> > help but in my area the  local Republican
> > administration considers those desperate people as
> > unimportant and are left in the hands of Liberals
> of
> > all kinds who care and act. If the economy is so
> > wonderful why is our case loads growing, why is
> the
> > traditional family our best customer. Why is
> > government so uncaring? More than a few great men
> > have said that the measure of a great nation is
> how
> > we care for those most in need. I see a lot of
> > conservatism but not much compassion. 
> > 
> > I have been lucky to have been able to do so many
> > wonderful things in my life including owning and
> > sailing the Rhodes22 but nothing makes me more
> proud
> > than to help a family regain the dignity that
> > economic freedom brings.
> > 
> > Liberal is not a dirty word but in fact a proud
> > American tradition of caring and acting. Come join
> > us we could us your help!
> > 
> > Don Clarke
> > S/V Certainty
> > 
> >  Liberal
> > 
> > a person who favors a political philosophy of
> > progress and reform and the protection of civil
> > liberties
> > 
> > a person who favors an economic theory of
> > laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
> > 
> > broad: showing or characterized by
> broad-mindedness;
> > "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad
> > sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of
> his
> > opponent's opinions"
> > 
> > having political or social views favoring reform
> and
> > progress
> > 
> > tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism,
> > orthodoxy, or tradition
> > 
> > in political speech now in the U.S. a liberal is a
> > person who believes it is the duty of government
> to
> > ameliorate social conditions and create a more
> > equitable society. Liberals favor generous
> spending
> > on the welfare state; they exhibit a concern for
> > minorities, the poor, and the disadvantaged and
> > often see these conditions as a product of social
> > injustices rather than individual failings.
> > 
> > A person who believes that the government should
> > actively support social reform within the existing
> > system. Liberals stress the importance of
> individual
> > rights and believe the government should promote
> > equality in affairs of private citizens and
> > businesses. (See CONSERVATIVE)
> > 
> > Just a touch of humor
> > 
> > 
> > A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN
> > 
> > 
> > Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with
> > water to prepare 
> > his morning coffee. The water is clean and good
> > because some 
> > tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum
> > water-quality standards. 
> > 
> > With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his
> daily
> > medication. His 
> > medications are safe to take because some stupid
> > commie liberal 
> > fought to insure their safety and that they work
> as
> > advertised. 
> > 
> > All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his
> > employer's medical 
> > plan because some liberal union workers fought
> their
> > employers for paid 
> > medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. 
> > 
> > He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs.
> > Joe's bacon is 
> > safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought
> > for laws to regulate 
> > the meat packing industry. 
> > 
> > In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his
> shampoo.
> > His bottle is 
> > properly labeled with each ingredient and its
> amount
> > in the total 
> > conten! ts because some crybaby liberal fought for
> > his right to know what he was 
> > putting on his body and how much it contained. 
> > 
> > Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep
> breath.
> > The air he 
> > breathes is clean because some environmentalist
> > wacko liberal fought 
> > for laws to stop industries from polluting our
> air. 
> > 
> > He walks to the subway station for his
> > government-subsidized ride to 
> > work. It saves him considerable money in parking
> and
> > transportation 
> > fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for
> > affordable public 
> > transportation, which gives everyone the
> opportunity
> > to be a contributor. 
> > 
> > Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with
> > excellent pay, 
> > medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and
> > vacation because some 
> > lazy liberal union members fought and died for
> these
> > working standards. Joes 
> > employer pays these standards because Joe's
> employer
> > doesn't want his 
> > employees to call the union. 
> > 
> > If Joe is hurt on the job or! becomes unemployed,
> > he'll get a worker 
> > compensation or unemployment check because some
> > stupid liberal didn't 
> > think he should lose his home because of his
> > temporary misfortune. 
> > 
> > Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit
> so
> > he can pay some 
> > bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the
> > FSLIC because some 
> > godless 
> > liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from
> > unscrupulous bankers who 
> > ruined the banking system before the Great
> > Depression. 
> > 
> > Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten
> mortgage
> > and his 
> > below-market federal student loan because some
> > elitist liberal decided 
> > that Joe and the government would be better off if
> > he was educated and earned 
> > more money over his lifetime. 
> > 
> > Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his
> father
> > this evening at 
> > his farm home in the country. He gets in his car
> for
> > the drive. His 
> > car is among the safest in the world because some
> > America-hating liberal 
> > fought for car safety standards.! He arrives at
> his
> > boyhood home. His 
> > was the third generation to live in the house
> > financed by Farmers' Home 
> > Administration because bankers didn't want to make
> > rural loans. The 
> > house didn't have electricity until some
> > big-government liberal stuck 
> > his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural
> > electrification. 
> > 
> > He is happy to see his father, who is now retired.
> > His father lives 
> > on Social Security and a union pension because
> some
> > wine-drinking, 
> > cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care
> > of himself so Joe 
> > wouldn't have to. 
> > 
> > Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and
> > turns on a radio talk 
> > show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals
> are
> > bad and 
> > conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that
> the
> > beloved Republicans have fought 
> > against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys
> > throughout his day. 
> > Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government
> > liberals ruining our lives! 
> > After all, I'm a self-made man who believes
> everyone
> > should take care 
> > of themselves, just like I have."
> > 
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