[Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the Liberal
Steve
rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 29 13:04:39 EST 2004
Thanks Don.
BTW: tell the lawyer that it all in the paperwork.
Its doens't matter whether the paperwork makes any
sence; it just has to be filled out. Never leave
questions blank. Blanks will get it rejected.
Steve
--- "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Steve,
>
> I have a volunteer Lawyer on staff to work on making
> these programs work. He gets so mad sometimes it
> seems like I need a drywall repair kit around at all
> times. If reasonably educated people can't find
> their way though the maze how do homeless do it. My
> informal study shows that most of my clients are not
> homeless because of drugs. Mostly they are people
> who lived pay check to pay check and misfortune hits
> and the landlord sent them on their way. Try making
> a rent payment when you need two months rent in
> advance. The longer you are homeless the harder it
> becomes.
>
> We can argue about which "track" we are on till the
> cows come home. What I want to hear is do we care
> about those who are not making it and are we doing
> our share to help.
>
>
> And are we Liberal enough to recognize that
> reasonable people can disagree about the solution
> but we caring enough to be the differences aside and
> help.
>
> And now I need to return to earning a living, Steve
> at least you care about something, I hate apathy.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the
> Liberal
>
> Don
> Let look at this from a more analyical point of
> view.
>
>
> If you fill bankrupcy; do you lose your home? No.
> Therefore, the question is, what did they do to
> actually become homeless. There are many HUD
> program
> for cheap housing. Shelter Plus Care Programs.
> Weatherization Programs. Emergency Food Programs.
> Low Income Energy Assistance Programs. Refugee
> Resettlement Programs. Homeless Assistance Grant
> programs. Aid to Aged,Blind, Disabled program.
> TANF
> programs. This is just a few more on top of the
> ones
> I listed before.
>
> So, why are these people homeless. And an even
> bigger
> questions, what are they doing for themselves to get
> themselves into a home.
>
> Remember, McDonald is always hiring. And the man &
> women who has children; it is thier responcisbility
> to
> take care of thier children & provide a home. Not
> Government. But as you can see from the small list
> I
> just quoted; there is really not a reason for people
> to be homeless today.
>
> Some people are lazy and must learn it the hard way.
>
> Also, you will fine (from all the studies I have
> read)
> that the main cause for the homeless is drugs. Drug
> addiction & alcohol abuse coupled with the notion
> that
> Government should take care of them. PUt them on
> the
> streets.
>
> Govenment cannot do everything. I understand that
> liberals think that govenment can but the real
> answer
> is that it CANNOT. Morally, it should NOT either.
> Steve
>
> --- "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > The Homeless shelter has been a real focus of mine
> > lately. There is nothing more frightening for a
> > family than to be with out a home. There are no
> TV's
> > or dryers or in some cases cars. I have seen the
> > faces of the kids who are truly scared for
> > themselves and their parents. They take on the
> guilt
> > of the parents and are inconsolable. I send the
> > slackers out the door but there are very few of
> > them. The need is real and the response from
> > government is indifference and confusion. So the
> > volunteers make the difference one family at a
> time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > Behalf Of Steve
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:36 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the
> > Liberal
> >
> > Don
> > Your actions as noted below sound sincere.
> However,
> > lets look at one of your issue.
> >
> > If the economy is so
> > > wonderful why is our case loads growing, why is
> > the
> > > traditional family our best customer. Why is
> > > government so uncaring?
> >
> > Now this is not critizing your works but lets look
> > at
> > your above statements.
> >
> > We are coming out of a recession that was created
> by
> > Clinton economic policies. You must verify this
> on
> > your own. I have stated it in the past. It is
> > verifiable. The so called traditional family
> being
> > your best customer. Could it also be that more
> > poeple
> > who do not need welfare are simple lineing up for
> > freebees? I have seen several news show where
> there
> > are lines of people line up waiting on Commodities
> > distributions and I will say that the lines are
> real
> > long. Watching this on a liberal network; the
> spin
> > is
> > how poor everyone is & how they look like the
> middle
> > class. Switch it over the a more balance network
> > where anchor goes over and ask a few questions;
> here
> > are a few of the responces:
> >
> > How many TVs in the house? average was 3
> > Do you have a microwave? all yes
> > Washer & dryer? all yes
> > Cable TV? all yes
> > How many cars? average was 2
> >
> > Just so you know; I am on top of the percentages
> of
> > who is poor & who is not. The poor are being
> taken
> > care of and there are a great many programs to
> help
> > them get jobs. Medicare, Medicaid, Social
> Security,
> > all are still here and we even have a new
> > entitlement
> > under the Bush administration for Drug benefits.
> > The
> > Liberals promise it but the Republican delivered.
>
> >
> > Now again, your good works should be applauded. I
> > do
> > my fare share but I won't go into what they are.
> My
> > points with Wally & Bob are that they are only
> > throwing out that liberal goom & doom and that is
> > just
> > plain nonsence. You sound like a very smart man &
> I
> > think you can see that this country is on a good
> > path
> > and it is getting better now that Bush has
> corrected
> > all the policies the Clinton had put in place.
> > Anyway, that liberal gloom & doom doens't cut it
> > with
> > me. People can take care of themselves and the
> ones
> > that REALLY can't; this country has program on top
> > of
> > more programs to help them out. People must learn
> > to
> > do for themselves. Government does not need to be
> > in
> > the business of wiping people asses. And my tax
> > dollars are NOT needed for that either.
> > Steve
> >
> > --- "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO"
> <drclarke at att.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > I can remain silent no longer.
> > >
> > > Were is your heart, your compassion?
> > >
> > > I am a Liberal in the great American tradition,
> > > that person you seem so to loath.
> > > I learned to be a Liberal while serving my
> country
> > > and trying to win the hearts and minds of
> another.
> > > Instead of winning them over to me, they won me
> > > over. A great man a lover of peace once told me
> in
> > > the last hours of his life that as imperfect as
> > > their life was it was theirs and America need
> not
> > > worry about them as in time they would join the
> > > community of nations as a productive partner.
> > This
> > > officer of the army of the north was so right
> and
> > > history has proven him true. He told me to go
> home
> > > and help my countrymen. As so I did.
> > >
> > > In my spare time I worked at the food bank, and
> > the
> > > homeless shelters since only action shows the
> true
> > > person. If compassion is to be real there must
> be
> > > action. In the many years I have do this work
> > there
> > > have been many ups and down and it sometime seen
> > > endless. But in the last 3 years the people
> coming
> > > to these services have changed. These are not
> the
> > > typical down and out person but the "there for
> the
> > > grace of God go I" where misfortune has turned
> to
> > > despair. Formally successful people set a
> drift.
> > > You would think that government should be there
> to
> > > help but in my area the local Republican
> > > administration considers those desperate people
> as
> > > unimportant and are left in the hands of
> Liberals
> > of
> > > all kinds who care and act. If the economy is so
> > > wonderful why is our case loads growing, why is
> > the
> > > traditional family our best customer. Why is
> > > government so uncaring? More than a few great
> men
> > > have said that the measure of a great nation is
> > how
> > > we care for those most in need. I see a lot of
> > > conservatism but not much compassion.
> > >
> > > I have been lucky to have been able to do so
> many
> > > wonderful things in my life including owning and
> > > sailing the Rhodes22 but nothing makes me more
> > proud
> > > than to help a family regain the dignity that
> > > economic freedom brings.
> > >
> > > Liberal is not a dirty word but in fact a proud
> > > American tradition of caring and acting. Come
> join
> > > us we could us your help!
> > >
> > > Don Clarke
> > > S/V Certainty
> > >
> > > Liberal
> > >
> > > a person who favors a political philosophy of
> > > progress and reform and the protection of civil
> > > liberties
> > >
> > > a person who favors an economic theory of
> > > laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
> > >
> > > broad: showing or characterized by
> > broad-mindedness;
> > > "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad
> > > sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of
> > his
> > > opponent's opinions"
> > >
> > > having political or social views favoring reform
> > and
> > > progress
> > >
> > > tolerant of change; not bound by
> authoritarianism,
> > > orthodoxy, or tradition
> > >
> > > in political speech now in the U.S. a liberal is
> a
> > > person who believes it is the duty of government
> > to
> > > ameliorate social conditions and create a more
> > > equitable society. Liberals favor generous
> > spending
> > > on the welfare state; they exhibit a concern for
> > > minorities, the poor, and the disadvantaged and
> > > often see these conditions as a product of
> social
> > > injustices rather than individual failings.
> > >
> > > A person who believes that the government should
> > > actively support social reform within the
> existing
> > > system. Liberals stress the importance of
> > individual
> > > rights and believe the government should promote
> > > equality in affairs of private citizens and
> > > businesses. (See CONSERVATIVE)
> > >
> > > Just a touch of humor
> > >
> > >
> > > A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot
> with
> > > water to prepare
> > > his morning coffee. The water is clean and good
> > > because some
> > > tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum
> > > water-quality standards.
> > >
> > > With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his
> > daily
> > > medication. His
> > > medications are safe to take because some stupid
> > > commie liberal
> > > fought to insure their safety and that they work
> > as
> > > advertised.
> > >
> > > All but $10 of his medications are paid for by
> his
> > > employer's medical
> > > plan because some liberal union workers fought
> > their
> > > employers for paid
> > > medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
> > >
> > > He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and
> eggs.
> > > Joe's bacon is
> > > safe to eat because some girly-man liberal
> fought
> > > for laws to regulate
> > > the meat packing industry.
> > >
> > > In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his
> > shampoo.
> > > His bottle is
> > > properly labeled with each ingredient and its
> > amount
> > > in the total
> > > conten! ts because some crybaby liberal fought
> for
> > > his right to know what he was
> > > putting on his body and how much it contained.
> > >
> > > Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep
> > breath.
> > > The air he
> > > breathes is clean because some environmentalist
> > > wacko liberal fought
> > > for laws to stop industries from polluting our
> > air.
> > >
> > > He walks to the subway station for his
> > > government-subsidized ride to
> > > work. It saves him considerable money in parking
> > and
> > > transportation
> > > fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for
> > > affordable public
> > > transportation, which gives everyone the
> > opportunity
> > > to be a contributor.
> > >
> > > Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with
> > > excellent pay,
> > > medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and
> > > vacation because some
> > > lazy liberal union members fought and died for
> > these
> > > working standards. Joes
> > > employer pays these standards because Joe's
> > employer
> > > doesn't want his
> > > employees to call the union.
> > >
> > > If Joe is hurt on the job or! becomes
> unemployed,
> > > he'll get a worker
> > > compensation or unemployment check because some
> > > stupid liberal didn't
> > > think he should lose his home because of his
> > > temporary misfortune.
> > >
> > > Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank
> deposit
> > so
> > > he can pay some
> > > bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the
> > > FSLIC because some
> > > godless
> > > liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from
> > > unscrupulous bankers who
> > > ruined the banking system before the Great
> > > Depression.
> > >
> > > Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten
> > mortgage
> > > and his
> > > below-market federal student loan because some
> > > elitist liberal decided
> > > that Joe and the government would be better off
> if
> > > he was educated and earned
> > > more money over his lifetime.
> > >
> > > Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his
> > father
> > > this evening at
> > > his farm home in the country. He gets in his car
> > for
> > > the drive. His
> > > car is among the safest in the world because
> some
> > > America-hating liberal
> > > fought for car safety standards.! He arrives at
> > his
> > > boyhood home. His
> > > was the third generation to live in the house
> > > financed by Farmers' Home
> > > Administration because bankers didn't want to
> make
> > > rural loans. The
> > > house didn't have electricity until some
> > > big-government liberal stuck
> > > his nose where it didn't belong and demanded
> rural
> > > electrification.
> > >
> > > He is happy to see his father, who is now
> retired.
> > > His father lives
> > > on Social Security and a union pension because
> > some
> > > wine-drinking,
> > > cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take
> care
> > > of himself so Joe
> > > wouldn't have to.
> > >
> > > Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and
> > > turns on a radio talk
> > > show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals
> > are
> > > bad and
> > > conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that
> > the
> > > beloved Republicans have fought
> > > against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys
> > > throughout his day.
> > > Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government
> > > liberals ruining our lives!
> > > After all, I'm a self-made man who believes
> > everyone
> > > should take care
> > > of themselves, just like I have."
> > >
> > >
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