[Rhodes22-list] Terrorism vs. Radical Islam
Rik Sandberg
sanderico at earthlink.net
Sun Oct 3 19:34:33 EDT 2004
Brad,
LOL
Rik
brad haslett wrote:
>Steve,
>
>Errand boy? Maybe on my days off for Mrs. Shen. I
>have people on the airplane that run the errands. The
>proper phrase is "glorified truck driver" which is a
>real slander to that profession since most truck
>drivers have enough self-esteem not to hang with
>pilots. Forgive me Rik.
>
>Brad
>
>--- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Brad,
>>
>>Nobody wants to hear what musicians say about
>>politics? Hello? Bob Dylan,
>>Bob Marley, Bruce Springsteen, Woody Guthrie, the
>>frickin' Smothers
>>Brothers? 8-) LOL
>>
>>Listen here
>>
>>
>>
>Mr-high-and-mighty-nothing-but-a-glorified-errand-boy,
>
>
>> 8-)
>>(I kill me) come Nov. 2nd, my vote'll count just as
>>much as yours or Alice
>>Cooper's!
>>
>>Slim
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9/27/04 10:15 PM, "brad haslett"
>><flybrad at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>This will be quick, I've got to burn some midnight
>>>oil. Literally.
>>>
>>>What religion is ahead on the body count
>>>
>>>
>>throughout
>>
>>
>>>history is immaterial. Clinton sent the military
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>>the Balkans to protect Muslims from Christians.
>>>
>>>
>>Janet
>>
>>
>>>Reno launched her troops against Christians in
>>>
>>>
>>Waco.
>>
>>
>>>If you act outside the law you get smacked. Right
>>>
>>>
>>now
>>
>>
>>>ALL the terrorists have been radical Muslims.
>>>
>>>My point about the Royal Saudis being party
>>>
>>>
>>animals
>>
>>
>>>was to show how they profess piety to the minions
>>>
>>>
>>but
>>
>>
>>>love sex, drugs, and rock and roll themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>Which
>>
>>
>>>by the way, did you see Alice Cooper's comments
>>>
>>>
>>last
>>
>>
>>>week? Cooper said "musicians party all night, do
>>>drugs, chase women, why does anyone care what they
>>>have to say about politics".
>>>
>>>We'll talk about the French later, I gotta go fly.
>>>
>>>Brad Haslett
>>>"CorsShen"
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Brad, comments below:
>>>>
>>>>On 9/27/04 5:37 PM, "brad haslett"
>>>><flybrad at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>but when your religion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>tells you to kill all who don't believe as you,
>>>>>there's a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Throughout Western history, no group has done
>>>>
>>>>
>>this
>>
>>
>>>>more than the Christians.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>(I used to train with the Saudi Air
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>pilots, Americans, and have heard all their
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>stories
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>about the flights to LAX to re-whore the harem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I know more than a few American rock and rollers
>>>>
>>>>
>>who
>>
>>
>>>>do the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Shah of Iran, despite his
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>faults, oversaw rapidly improving conditions for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>his
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>population.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Brad, "..despite his faults..." is just not
>>>>
>>>>
>>enough
>>
>>
>>>>syllables. It glosses
>>>>over the atrocities committed, even sanctioned by
>>>>the US.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Taking a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>chance on dying and perhaps the 40 to 60 virgins
>>>>>(whatever) not being there won't seem nearly as
>>>>>attractive when you can enjoy some of the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>comforts
>>
>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>21st century, running water for example.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>So it's come down to running water now vs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>virgins
>>
>>
>>>>in the hereafter? Aren't
>>>>there any other choices?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You'll notice France
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>isn't taking any chances with them. Have you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>followed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the news on how they are treating their own
>>>>>substantial Muslim population?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>By far, the most substantial religion in France
>>>>
>>>>
>>is
>>
>>
>>>>Catholicism, and they're
>>>>playing that down as well. The French have
>>>>
>>>>
>>always
>>
>>
>>>>been very secular.
>>>>
>>>>Slim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Guys, I hear what you are saying about the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>attitudes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>of Muslims on the street towards the United
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>States.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>But, I have a hard time declaring this a war
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>against
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Islam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We're talking about the Fertile Crescent here,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>cradle of civilization. The folks in this area
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the world were building great engineering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>marvels
>>
>>
>>>>>>like the Ziggurat Pyramids, aqueducts, the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>Hanging
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Gardens of Babylon, & living in big cities when
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>my
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>ancestors in northern Europe were barely out of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>stone age living in thatched huts. These folks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>a culture that goes back several millennia &
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>gave
>>
>>
>>>>us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>some of the 1st known written languages, the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>legal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>code of Hamurabi, as well as great literature
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>such
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>as the epic of Gilgamish. To think that these
>>>>>>people with their long tradition of engineering
>>>>>>excellence, creativity, & scholarship would not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>able to produce their own chemical & biological
>>>>>>weapons given the amount of time & resources
>>>>>>available is ridiculous at the very least &
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>tends
>>
>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>smell like some sort of racial bias. Anyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>who
>>
>>
>>>>>>discounts their capability does so at their own
>>>>>>peril.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think a lot of our problems with the Muslim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>world
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>stem from our relationship with Israel & with a
>>>>>>general frustration with the continuing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>bloodshed
>>
>>
>>>>&
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>chaos in the region. Whether it's fixable is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>not
>>
>>
>>>>>>clear at this point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>>S/V Dynamic Equilbrium
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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