[Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness

Bob Weber ruba1811 at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 29 10:34:03 EDT 2004 

LLoyd, Thanks for the clarification - it makes much more sense when you say 
it.  Mabey you should teach instead of me.  I did not care too much for 
comprehension since I was just answering critizism and he was not wanting 
info.  With the Pop-Top up I can, infact insist, do the whole thing from the 
cockpit.  I don't let students go forward unless it is dead calm.  The only 
time I need to go forward is a reefing line which came off the reel or a jib 
sheet caught on the deck cleat, both of whch happen a lot when you got 
rookies running the boat.

Bob

>From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:12:01 -0400
>
>Steve,
>
>I think if you read Bob's description carefully what he is trying to say
>when he says "You pull one line which is lead forward along  the boom to
>about the companion way and it pulls the boom up to the new clew."  he 
>means
>he pulls the after section of the boom up to the reefing points clew on the
>sail's leach (rotating the end of the boom up, not moving the forward end 
>of
>the boom up) by means of a line that goes from the rear of the boom up
>through the gourmet at the rear of the reef lines in the mainsail, back 
>down
>through a block on the rear starboard of the boom, and then forward to a
>cleat on the starboard side of the boom at "about the companion way".  I
>have the same system on my boat.  After he lowers the head of the mainsail
>("Drop the halyard to a preset point") he brings the reefing point's clew
>gourmet at the luff of the mainsail  to the right location on the boom 
>using
>a line from near the port front of the boom, up through said gourmet, and
>back down to a fitting on the starboard side of the mast near its base.
>Then he probably uses his reefing lines to handle the excess mainsail.
>However, I doubt that I could do this whole maneuver without ever leaving 
>my
>cockpit.
>
>Lloyd
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
>
>
> > I guess I would have to see it work.  As long as it
> > works; that all that matters.
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Steve, I donno - it works great.  Only the end to
> > > the boom goes up about 2
> > > feet.  If you change the order of operations it
> > > would work as well but you
> > > risk dropping the boom on your head / water.  The
> > > sail is totally depowered
> > > while I do this anyway so it is of little matter.
> > > BW
> > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:35:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Bob
> > > >PUll the boom up to the new clew.  In reefing, you
> > > are
> > > >better off lowing the sail.  NOt reising the boom
> > > up
> > > >the mast.  This don't sound right to me!!
> > > >Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Lou, That was my project last off season.  I
> > > found
> > > > > an inexpensive system at
> > > > > Sailrite.com
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://secure.sailrite.com/value/viewcart.asp?CartId={EVERESTE5AD9975-C9A5-
>4333-9D7C-4CD8583CF145}&Tp=&VCT=&WERR=
> > > > > It is simple and straight forward.  It has been
> > > > > effective even when I failed
> > > > > to follow the "Reef Early" moto.  You sail a
> > > close
> > > > > hauled course under
> > > > > headsail, unsheet the main.    You pull one line
> > > > > which is lead forward along
> > > > > the boom to about the companion way and it pulls
> > > the
> > > > > boom up to the new
> > > > > clew.  Drop the halyard to a preset point.  Pull
> > > on
> > > > > a second line which is
> > > > > lead to the cleat at the base of the mast to
> > > secure
> > > > > the new (reefed) tack.
> > > > > Your done.  Never left the cockpit, assuming you
> > > > > have lead the main halyard
> > > > > aft to the cockpit already.  The kit provides
> > > > > grommets for the clew and tack
> > > > > but I had this done by Sail Care duing the prior
> > > > > season.  I feel much better
> > > > > in the grommets that they put in (plus the sail
> > > > > reinforcing) rather than the
> > > > > ones supplied in the kit.  The cleaning of my
> > > main
> > > > > and the addition of 2
> > > > > reaf points and a full batten at the top only
> > > ran
> > > > > about 140.  I recommend it
> > > > > highly.  If I missed a point drop me a note.  I
> > > have
> > > > > sailed with a reefed
> > > > > main as often as not so don't put it off or you
> > > will
> > > > > miss some good sailing
> > > > > days next season.  Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
> > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:54:08 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Rhodes Sailors,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  I was wondering for those adventurous view
> > > who
> > > > > don't have an IMF rig, how
> > > > > >they reef their mainsails?
> > > > > >  Is anyone using Lazyjacks ?
> > > > > >                           Doyle Stack Packs?
> > > > > >                              Harken reef
> > > systems?
> > > > > >  Regular jiffy or slab reefing with a
> > > different
> > > > > twist???
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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