[Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness

Lloyd Crowther lcrowther at cox.net
Fri Oct 29 13:32:46 EDT 2004 

Bob,

I never sail with the pop-top up but would not, in any case, have it up in a
situation that might required reefing.  But then, I'm really a pussy cat
plus I sail single-handed most of the time.  Since many readers on this list
really dissect every message (to learn more about a subject they are
interested in) I have found clarity a number one rule in making any point.

Lloyd

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness


> LLoyd, Thanks for the clarification - it makes much more sense when you
say
> it.  Mabey you should teach instead of me.  I did not care too much for
> comprehension since I was just answering critizism and he was not wanting
> info.  With the Pop-Top up I can, infact insist, do the whole thing from
the
> cockpit.  I don't let students go forward unless it is dead calm.  The
only
> time I need to go forward is a reefing line which came off the reel or a
jib
> sheet caught on the deck cleat, both of whch happen a lot when you got
> rookies running the boat.
>
> Bob
>
> >From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:12:01 -0400
> >
> >Steve,
> >
> >I think if you read Bob's description carefully what he is trying to say
> >when he says "You pull one line which is lead forward along  the boom to
> >about the companion way and it pulls the boom up to the new clew."  he
> >means
> >he pulls the after section of the boom up to the reefing points clew on
the
> >sail's leach (rotating the end of the boom up, not moving the forward end
> >of
> >the boom up) by means of a line that goes from the rear of the boom up
> >through the gourmet at the rear of the reef lines in the mainsail, back
> >down
> >through a block on the rear starboard of the boom, and then forward to a
> >cleat on the starboard side of the boom at "about the companion way".  I
> >have the same system on my boat.  After he lowers the head of the
mainsail
> >("Drop the halyard to a preset point") he brings the reefing point's clew
> >gourmet at the luff of the mainsail  to the right location on the boom
> >using
> >a line from near the port front of the boom, up through said gourmet, and
> >back down to a fitting on the starboard side of the mast near its base.
> >Then he probably uses his reefing lines to handle the excess mainsail.
> >However, I doubt that I could do this whole maneuver without ever leaving
> >my
> >cockpit.
> >
> >Lloyd
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> >
> >
> > > I guess I would have to see it work.  As long as it
> > > works; that all that matters.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Steve, I donno - it works great.  Only the end to
> > > > the boom goes up about 2
> > > > feet.  If you change the order of operations it
> > > > would work as well but you
> > > > risk dropping the boom on your head / water.  The
> > > > sail is totally depowered
> > > > while I do this anyway so it is of little matter.
> > > > BW
> > > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:35:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >Bob
> > > > >PUll the boom up to the new clew.  In reefing, you
> > > > are
> > > > >better off lowing the sail.  NOt reising the boom
> > > > up
> > > > >the mast.  This don't sound right to me!!
> > > > >Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lou, That was my project last off season.  I
> > > > found
> > > > > > an inexpensive system at
> > > > > > Sailrite.com
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>http://secure.sailrite.com/value/viewcart.asp?CartId={EVERESTE5AD9975-C9A5-
> >4333-9D7C-4CD8583CF145}&Tp=&VCT=&WERR=
> > > > > > It is simple and straight forward.  It has been
> > > > > > effective even when I failed
> > > > > > to follow the "Reef Early" moto.  You sail a
> > > > close
> > > > > > hauled course under
> > > > > > headsail, unsheet the main.    You pull one line
> > > > > > which is lead forward along
> > > > > > the boom to about the companion way and it pulls
> > > > the
> > > > > > boom up to the new
> > > > > > clew.  Drop the halyard to a preset point.  Pull
> > > > on
> > > > > > a second line which is
> > > > > > lead to the cleat at the base of the mast to
> > > > secure
> > > > > > the new (reefed) tack.
> > > > > > Your done.  Never left the cockpit, assuming you
> > > > > > have lead the main halyard
> > > > > > aft to the cockpit already.  The kit provides
> > > > > > grommets for the clew and tack
> > > > > > but I had this done by Sail Care duing the prior
> > > > > > season.  I feel much better
> > > > > > in the grommets that they put in (plus the sail
> > > > > > reinforcing) rather than the
> > > > > > ones supplied in the kit.  The cleaning of my
> > > > main
> > > > > > and the addition of 2
> > > > > > reaf points and a full batten at the top only
> > > > ran
> > > > > > about 140.  I recommend it
> > > > > > highly.  If I missed a point drop me a note.  I
> > > > have
> > > > > > sailed with a reefed
> > > > > > main as often as not so don't put it off or you
> > > > will
> > > > > > miss some good sailing
> > > > > > days next season.  Bob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reefer Madness
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:54:08 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Rhodes Sailors,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  I was wondering for those adventurous view
> > > > who
> > > > > > don't have an IMF rig, how
> > > > > > >they reef their mainsails?
> > > > > > >  Is anyone using Lazyjacks ?
> > > > > > >                           Doyle Stack Packs?
> > > > > > >                              Harken reef
> > > > systems?
> > > > > > >  Regular jiffy or slab reefing with a
> > > > different
> > > > > > twist???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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