[Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper
Michael Meltzer
mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Thu Sep 2 22:47:43 EDT 2004
does that work for you?
MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:57 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] !!
>
> PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE IF YOU WANT TO TALK POLITICS!!!
>
> (yes I am yelling)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ronald Lipton
> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:09:22 -0500
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list ,stan
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > Stan,
> >
> > Thank you very much for taking the time to write your note. I have
> > grown
> > increasingly cynical about politics, the power all seems to be held
> by
> > the groups and businesses with the money to buy PR, and not just
> > ads but the media themselves. Given the backbiting, the politics of
> > personal destruction, the need to kowtow to contributers, I don't
> see
> > how we even get the small fraction of quality politicians that we
> have.
> > But it seems that the fraction is getting smaller. There is always
> > hope ...
> > I guess.
> >
> > By the way, you can get an interesting perspective on the politics
> of
> > ; Texas and the nation in the second volume of the Lyndon Johnson
> > biography by Robert Caro. The Oil companies and Brown and Root
> > (now a division of Haliburton) figure prominently in his first
> stolen
> > senatorial primary as well as his subsequent career. The more things
> > change the more they remain the same.
> >
> > Ron Lipton
> > On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:16 AM, stan wrote:
> >
> > > We are back to politics? - Wonderful:
> > >
> > > Notice when it is one of their own they flip flop:
> > >
> > > Cheney's daughter is gay so he is against the constitution
> amendment.
> > >
> > > Bush's father and TX friends went out of their way to keep him out
> of
> > > the fray but if you sign up for it like Kerry did, and find it was
> a
> > > mistake - that is a flip flop.
> > >
> > > If anyone else is accused of a conflict of interest, like
> Clinton's
> > > wife was strung up for, that is ok, but the flip flop allows Mrs.
> > > Cheney to sit on the board of our huge defense contractor and that
> is
> > > not a conflict of interest. Under whose definition?.
> > >
> > > If you want to do the real count on flip flops, see Effros book of
> > > quotes to see who leads by a mile.
> > >
> > > Chris Mathews says the differences in this election are crisp if
> you
> > > look at the major issues - I liked the way he put the decision
> making:
> > >
> > > If you want to cut taxes proportionally much higher for the
> wealthiest
> > > of us - you know who to vote for. .
> > >
> > > If you have reservations on advancing science - you know who to
> vote
> > > for. (If you have questions on this one, ask president Regan's
> son)
> > >
> > > If you want us to lead the world single handedly - you know who to
> > > vote for.
> > >
> > > If you do not mind someone else's kid dying to secure Feluja (sp?)
> as
> > > long as it is not you or yours who has to die for this strategic
> piece
> > > of land needed to keep us free of terrorist - you know who to vote
> for
> > > (personally I grieve more for the thousands and thousands whose
> lives
> > > are now shattered by wounds then I do for the ones who may be
> going to
> > > heaven to get their 40 virgins)
> > >
> > > If you think the way to have no child left behind is to have the
> rest
> > > of the children stand still while the left behind kids catch up
> and
> > > therefore flip flop over the funding of the program as it was
> intended
> > > - you know who to vote for.
> > >
> > > If you think being for the environment is passing a law requiring
> new
> > > energy plants to meet regulations and then allowing all energy
> plants
> > &g t; to rebuild themselves 99% and call that "not new" so not under
> the
> > > regulations - you know who to vote for.
> > >
> > > And if you think the costs of the higher health bills with lower
> > > worker productivity that results from dismantling in-place
> > > environmental regulations can be made up with tie-ins to a stock
> > > market because it always goes up - you know who to vote for.
> > >
> > > If you agree that the super new debt is going to be taken care of
> by
> > > the super booming economy just around the corner - you know who to
> > > vote for.
> > >
> > > If you think leadership is someone who sits there for seven
> minutes in
> > > a helpless state with a totally blanc look when told we are being
> > > attacked, or who lands on an aircraft carrier and emerges from a
> war
> > > plane announcing the war is over when it has not even started, is
> t he
> > > kind of man we need to lead this country in war - you know who to
> vote
> > > for.
> > >
> > > If you think government should stay off your back and not be
> telling
> > > you how to run your personal business and then flip flops and
> tells
> > > you what you have to do with your body - you know who to vote for.
> > >
> > > If you think religion should be allowed to sneak into government
> by
> > > funding religious organizations and other creeping back door
> > > techniques because you think religiously controlled countries are
> more
> > > likely to live in peace - you know who to vote for - but you don't
> > > know your history or current events..
> > >
> > > sorry, I am running out of time - not issues that make this
> election
> > > an easy distinction between the two major parties.
> > >
> > > Just go out and vote - or you deserve what you get. The last
> election
> > > was lost to the minority by just a handful of voters not voting to
> > > counteract a handful of incompetent old Jewish voters who voted
> for
> > > the favorite son, Buchanan, because they could not make out a
> ballot
> > > that showed the wrong picture next to the one they actually
> intended
> > > to make president. Vote. Your vote does make a difference.
> > >
> > > stan/gbi
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Alm"
> > > To: "Rhodes"
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:11 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > >
> > >
> > >> No doubt it takes that kind of fire power to guard the
> Republicans
> > >> and their
> > >> little get-together this week. Without them putting their butts
> on
> > >> the > >> line, ready to take a bullet for...um...let's see...who?
> Just because
> > >> you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. There
> must
> > >> be
> > >> SOMEONE who deserves all that tax-payer money. Would you take a
> > >> bullet for
> > >> a politician that most of the world hates? I wouldn't. And if
> that
> > >> makes
> > >> me a girlyman, then show me to the pantyhose isle! Maybe the
> original
> > >> girlyman, Corporal Klinger, had it right all along. 8-)
> > >>
> > >> Slim
> > >>
> > >> On 9/1/04 9:19 PM, "Michael Meltzer" wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Ok, I have a beer in one hand and bowl of peanuts near the
> other.
> > >>> Still
> > >>> wondering about girlymem, I have to admit the 4 grardsman on
> > >>> the train patform looked cute, the 2 state police riding in the
> > >>> train car had
> > >>> nice hair cuts, The 200 plus cops in thier cute blue
> > >>> NYPD uniforms(48 to 58 street, the waldoff did it) while I walk
> to
> > >>> the office.
> > >>> But the cutest of all was the swat terms(NYDP
> > >>> specical action units), They look darling standing thier in
> thier
> > >>> tight
> > >>> unimforms, standing thier with thier m16a2 finger indexed
> > >>> long the triger(at least point down) and the selector set to 3
> > >>> round(I think
> > >>> so), I gives me a woody just thinking about it. Bad
> > >>> day! haw! How many are putting thier ass on the line.
> > >>>
> > >>> MJM
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "ed kroposki" < EKROPOSKI at CHARTER.NET>
> > >>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:53 AM
> > >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Michael:
> > >>>> We understand that you had a bad day. The use of alcohol after
> such
> > >>>> a day yields weird results. Stay away from the bottle.
> > >>>> Just tune into Rum Runner music: http://users2.ev1.net/~barr/
> > >>>> Listen and you can tell what rum will do to you.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ed K
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> > > ;>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:18 AM
> > >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Answer......NO. That would be an oxymoron.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Rummy
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