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[Steve]

I am sure I am getting more work than you.  Beside,
like I said yesterday.  I type 100wpm.  It doesn't
take must time for me to make a resonce.  

Beside Freedom & Liberty must be promoted for all the
world to see; yes, this includes my liberal friends
here on the Rhodes List:-)
Steve


--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> Are you getting a lot of work done in your
> government job today?
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> > To many vets are speaking against Kerry.  He
> should
> > release his miltery records like Bush did.  What
> is he
> > hiding.  If you really looks at Bush militay
> record,
> > there is nothing bad there at all.  Of course, we
> > can't see Kerry record; he won't release them.
> >
> > The only thing this country did wrong in Viet Nam
> is
> > we did not Win the War.  Actually, we did not try
> to
> > win the war.  We had the technology, but because
> of
> > people like John Kerry; we did not have the will
> power
> > to actually do what it took to win the war.  That
> is a
> > Tragedy.
> >
> > This election is all about the war.  Who will
> defend
> > this nation and protect all our families; your &
> mine.
> >  We know Bush will; we have nothing that shows us
> that
> > Kerry will.  And again, he has voted against every
> > major weapons system that protects our freedom. 
> This
> > is just not acceptable in a leader.  Our military
> must
> > be the strongest military in the world.  To
> promote
> > liberity & freedom for all the nations to look to
> as
> > an example.  We must help people and nations
> become
> > free.  It would be unamerican not too!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It is fairly obvious you don't understand how
> medals
> >> are awarded. See
> >> Rummy's previous post.
> >>
> >> Having a father that spent two tours in Viet Nam
> and
> >> served in the Navy for
> >> 30 years; I can tell you that swift boats were
> about
> >> the most dangerous duty
> >> facing our Navy. If you weren't a Navy pilot,
> SEAL
> >> or on a swift boat you
> >> never made it close to enemy lines. He signed up
> for
> >> this duty. I don't
> >> fault Bush for serving in the National Guard but
> >> lets face it; he got in the
> >> National Guard due to family favors. Say what you
> >> want about Kerry but if
> >> you want to compare what happened way back then
> >> Kerry wins hands down.
> >>
> >> Personally I don't think this should be the focus
> of
> >> this election. Many of
> >> the bills that Kerry voted against had layers of
> >> pork fat wrapped around
> >> them.  He was not against every weapon you
> >> mentioned. Each of these bills
> >> had other things attached to them. We have not
> had a
> >> Senator voted president
> >> in years. This is one of the primary reasons. One
> >> could also say that people
> >> that voted yes for every weapons bill voted yes
> on
> >> all of the waste that was
> >> included.
> >>
> >> So lets move forward from the 60s to the 70s. Yes
> >> Kerry spoke out against
> >> Viet Nam. I thought the war was a tragic waste of
> >> human life and in the end
> >> a miserable failure. Kerry decided to serve his
> >> country further in politics.
> >> What did Bush do? Best I can tell he partied a
> >> bunch, snorted cocaine, and
> >> enjoyed the high life. Heck it sounds fun to me
> but
> >> not exactly a great
> >> track record for a future president.
> >>
> >> So lets move forward to the 80s. Kerry continued
> to
> >> serve in politics while
> >> Bush ran more than one company into the ground.
> >> Daddy's connections came in
> >> handy again and he some how came out of it
> smelling
> >> like a rose. Didn't he
> >> also own a baseball team, let's face it the
> Rangers
> >> sucked but i guess I
> >> can't blame Bush for that. The point is he still
> did
> >> nothing in my eyes to
> >> prepare him for president.
> >>
> >> The 90s brough Bush into the political ring. I
> >> didn't live in Texas but
> >> depending upon who you ask he either did a great
> job
> >> or he sucked.
> >>
> >> There are at least two sides to every story. An
> >> astute voter will take the
> >> time to try to figure out the issues instead of
> just
> >> saying all liberals are
> >> cowards and that anyone against the war in Iraq
> is a
> >> liberal and by
> >> definition a coward. I realize the issues are
> >> complex and i don't expect all
> >> to be able to understand them.
> >>
> >> Wally
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] List Administrator
> See
> >> All
> >> >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:05:51 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >
> >> >No, it doesn't PO me. Kerry brought up the war
> as
> >> his
> >> >one thing that he did that people should look to
> in
> >> >his for why he should be President.  But there
> are
> >> >more people disbuting his claims than that hand
> >> full
> >> >that he carry around with him. Kerry only has a
> >> proven
> >> >record of protesting a war; NOT fighting it.
> >> Voting
> >> >against every major weapon systems that protect
> >> your
> >> >freedom & mine.  Voting aginst funding the CIA.
> >> >Voting against funding our troops in time of
> War.
> >> >Those are facts that cannot be disbuted.
> >> >
> >> >Bush record is one of moral leadership.  He has
> >> >restored this country to one that American can
> be
> >> >proud of.  He fare on his policies.  And even
> >> passed
> >> >the biggest thing that Democrats have been
> >> promissing
> >> >the people for decades, a precription drug
> benefit
> >> on
> >> >Medicare.  These are facts.
> >> >
> >> >What has Kerry done to help this country? I will
> >> give
> >> >you the answer; there nothing he can point to.
> >> That's
> >> >why he keep bring up Vietnam.
> >> >Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--- Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'm sure you could find a group of veterans
> to
> >> > > denounce Bush too, but he
> >> > > wasn't over there.
> >> > >
> >> > > Actually, I don't care about Bush being
> missing
> >> in
> >> > > Alabama any more than I
> >> > > do about Kerry's service record.  I don't
> think
> >> what
> >> > > these guys did 30 years
> >> > > ago matters a lick.  I don't want to be
> judged
> >> by
> >> > > decisions I made in my
> >> > > 20s, and that was only 10 years ago!
> >> > >
> >> > > I am certainly not knowledgeable about
> Kerry's
> >> > > career in the Senate.  But,
> >> > > his constituents thought he was doing enough
> to
> >> keep
> >> > > electing him, so he
> >> > > must have been doing a good job, in their
> eyes.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think you've bought into the myth that
> >> Democrats
> >> > > want to be soft on
> >> > > terrorists.  I don't think that holds water. 
> I
> >> > > voted for Bush the first
> >> > > time around partially because I thought
> Clinton
> >> was
> >> > > spending too much time
> >> > > policing other countries.  How would a
> >> Democratic
> >> > > president handle the
> >> > > post-9/11 world?  None of us can really say.
> >> > >
> >> > > Anyway, my main point was that asking
> veterans
> >> to
> >> > > defend their medals is a
> >> > > bad precedent.  Really bad.  Think about it
> in
> >> the
> >> > > context of a WWII
> >> > > veteran.  Doesn't it piss you off?
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
> On
> >> > > Behalf Of Steve
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:45 PM
> >> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] List
> Administrator
> >> See
> >> > > All
> >> > >
> >> > > Ben
> >> > > Why are all those veterans saying that Kerry
> did
> >> not
> >> > > earn them.  Also, not the swift boat but a
> whole
> >> new
> >> > > group are having a get together this weekend
> to
> >> > > denounce Kerry.
> >> > >
> >> > > Kerry has done nothing is his whole career as
> a
> >> > > senator to help protect this country.  He
> spent
> >> more
> >> > > time protesting the war than he did fighting
> in
> >> it.
> >> > > He have voted against every major weapons
> >> progran
> >> > > that
> >> > > has made this country a superpower over the
> last
> >> 20
> >> > > years.
> >> > >
> >> > > Bottom line, the man cannot be trusted to
> defend
> >> > > this
> >> > > country against terrorests or rouge nations.
> >> And
> >> > > please keep in mind, the terrorist hate
> >> democrats
> >> > > just
> >> > > as much as republicans.
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > > --- Ben Schultz <BenS at ApproSystems.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > C'mon Steve, surely we're not going to
> demand
> >> that
> >> > > > veterans prove that they
> >> > > > deserve the medals that they were issued --
> >> even
> >> > > > veterans who don't have the
> >> > > > sense to stay out of politics.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]
> On
> >> > > > Behalf Of Steve
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:48 AM
> >> > > > To: stan; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] List
> >> Administrator
> >> > > See
> >> > > > All
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Stan
> >> > > > All Kerry did in the war was film himself.
> >> You
> >> > > have
> >> > > > no proof that he earn even one of his
> medals.
> >> > > There
> >> > > > are more people saying he was a joke in the
> >> war
> >> > > than
> >> > > > saying he did anything heroic.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Kerry has voted against everything and
> every
> >> > > weapon
> >> > > > system that protect this country.  Voted
> >> against
> >> > > > funding the CIA.  There is apsolutly no
> common
> >> > > sence
> >> > > > that were evern suggust that he has the
> brains
> >> > > > necessary to run this country.  Again, he
> has
> >> > > voted
> >> > > > against everything that give liberal
> >> democrates
> >> > > the
> >> > > > freedom to be stupid, be on welfare and
> lazy.
> >> YOu
> >> > > > have the freedom to be that way thanks to
> our
> >> > > > military.  Luckly, there our smarter people
> in
> >> > > > Congress that did not side with Kerry which
> >> allows
> >> > > > us
> >> > > > to fund our military so that we can remain
> the
> >> > > sole
> >> > > > Superpower.  Without this, democrats would
> >> lose
> >> > > > welfare.
> >> > > > Steve
> >> > > > --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Point of Information::
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > When bills or resolutions, etc are up for
> >> votes
> >> > > in
> >> > > > > congress, riders can be
> >> > > > > attached forcing a thinking lawmaker's
> >> desire to
> >> > > > > vote one way on an issue,
> >> > > > > to be changed because he or she is not in
> >> favor
> >> > > of
> >> > > > > the rider. So congress
> >> > > > > people do vote one way and then are
> forced
> >> to
> >> > > > "flip
> >> > > > > flop" on the same issue
> >> > > > > when it is effectively changed by the
> rider.
> >> > > The
> >> > > > > Republican side of the
> >> > > > > isle does it - even vp Cheney.  Not
> >> uncommon.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > However, the Republicans are brilliant.
> >> They
> >> > > know
> >> > > > > everyone but the simple
> >> > > > > folk understand this so they make flip
> flop
> >> a
> >> > > > > campaign theme.  Just like the
> >> > > > > war record issue were they know everyone
> but
> >> the
> >> > > > > simple folks understand
> >> > > > > Bush bought his way out of harm's way
> while
> >> > > Kerry
> >> > > > > faced the bullets and then
> >> > > > > decided the cause was a mistake and
> flipped
> >> > > > flopped
> >> > > > > over it, so they make
> >> > > > > use of the left behind group to make the
> two
> >> war
> >> > > > > records a campaign issue.
> >> > > > > (not so sure they will get away  with it
> in
> >> this
> >> > > > > instance - too obvious,
> >> > > > > even to the blindly faithful  - plus many
> >> > > > > Republicans like John McCain,
> >> > > > > can't stomach it .)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I still think money, being the bottom
> line
> >> in
> >> > > our
> >> > > > > society, makes betting the
> >> > > > > way for the List to handle problem
> members.
> >> > > Let's
> >> > > > > bet.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > For instance we could bet on the
> sincerity
> >> of
> >> > > > those
> >> > > > > in favor this war. If
> >> > > > > they are willing to join a "Lincoln" like
> >> > > brigade
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > fight terrorists in
> >> > > > > Iraq tomorrow, they win.  (The list could
> >> chip
> >> > > in
> >> > > > > and pay their expenses
> >> > > > > from a standing pot)  If they lose they
> have
> >> to
> >> > > > add
> >> > > > > to the List's betting
> >> > > > > pot.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > And we could bet on the factual "flip
> flop"
> >> > > > charges
> >> > > > > by having those like
> >> > > > > Bush and Steve, who accuse Kerry of this
> >> crime,
> >> > > > vs.
> >> > > > > those like myself who
> >> > > > > say that if you count Bush's campaign
> >> promises
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > career remarks, he is the
> >> > > > > "flip flopper" winner, contribute to the
> pot
> >> -
> >> > > > have
> >> > > > > the pot pay for an
> >> > > > > independent accounting and the balance go
> to
> >> the
> >> > > > > winner.   That would be the
> >> > > > > civilized way to go.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > So my suggestion is not to impose
> censorship
> >> but
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > refine the rules to:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If you have an opinion, it has to proceed
> >> with a
> >> > > > > remark like, " in my humble
> >> > > > > opinion, you are an asshole".
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > and statements proclaimed as factual, be
> >> > > > accompanied
> >> > > > > by contributions to the
> >> > > > > betting pool,  like  " Kerry is the
> bigger
> >> flip
> >> > > > > flopper and the facts will
> >> > > > > prove that so here is my contribution to
> the
> >> > > > betting
> >> > > > > pool"   And the paid
> >> > > > > factual team goes to work and the winner
> >> takes
> >> > > > what
> >> > > > > is left in the pool.  I
> >> > > > > bet the compilation of the verifiable
> facts
> >> > > could
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > > sold to the media or
> >> > > > > published and the List could eventually
> make
> >> a
> >> > > > > fortune.  Bill will get us a
> >> > > > > publisher.and an advance.  Let's start
> >> betting
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > put our money where our
> >> > > > > loose tongues are. .
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > An aside: Bush lost the election by a
> >> > > substantial
> >> > > > > number of the popular
> >> > > > > vote.  I would not be so quick in ceding
> the
> >> > > > > election to him this time.
> >> > > > > Those who understand and quiver (a
> cowards
> >> > > opinion
> >> > > > > and so labeled) at where
> >> > > > > he is leading the country tend to be
> quieter
> >> > > than
> >> > > > > those in favor.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Of course there are exceptions to those
> from
> >> the
> >> > > > > left being "quieter". Wanna
> >> > > > > bet.
> >> > > > > .
> >> > > > > stan/gbi
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com>
> >> > > > > To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:45
> PM
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] List
> >> Administrator
> >> > > > See
> >> > > > > All
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Wally,
> >> > > > > > You see, Steve is an analyst for the
> >> > > government.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hope that clears things
> >> > > > > > up.
> >> > > > > > Slim
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > >
> >>
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