[Rhodes22-list] Generator

Fri Apr 1 07:32:28 EST 2005

Rik,

Do you have generator on the Flicka?

Bill Effros

Rik Sandberg wrote:

> Yeah, that was me. :-)
>
> Brad and I were trying to figure out the best way to hang the things 
> off the transom. IIRC we decided to make a shelf out of the boarding 
> ladder and set 'em on there. Never did use the Honda on the R 22.
>
> Rik
>
> Wally Buck wrote:
>
>> Oh heck Bill I never lambasted anyone. ;-)
>>
>> I know Ric has a Honda but I am not sure if he ever used on his 
>> Rhodes. They scare me a little on small boats like ours. A couple of 
>> years ago three people were airlifted from our marina overhwlemed by 
>> fumes on their big Carver cruiser. Supposedly the guy had 3 carbon 
>> monoxide detecters. On a boat like Brads he may have plenty of room. 
>> I would still suggest one of the jump starter packs. They are prety 
>> cheap. If you put a generator on your boat be careful.
>>
>> Wally
>>
>>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:21:56 -0500
>>>
>>> Sorry, Wally,
>>>
>>> Who was the other guy we were lambasting?
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>> Wally Buck wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't had the need for a generator so I really didn't comment 
>>>> back then. For my use they are overkill but I could see how they 
>>>> could be handy. What about one of those jump start battery packs? 
>>>> My buddy just restored a boat from the 70s and his motor has a hand 
>>>> crank. I thought that was pretty nice. You need to know how to use 
>>>> crank so you don't get hurt. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Wally
>>>>
>>>>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator
>>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:45:00 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry about the lambasting.  I think I was on the lambasting side 
>>>>> of the equation, although I think my role would better be 
>>>>> characterized as ridiculing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I stumbled across one, and was really surprised about how 
>>>>> quiet it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, I had trashed all the email in this thread, thinking it 
>>>>> would never apply to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm thinking it might be a really useful thing to carry 
>>>>> aboard.  Your situation is just one example.  But it also might be 
>>>>> useful as a hybrid gas/electric propulsion system in a pinch.  We 
>>>>> are already carrying the gas on board, so that's no big thing.  
>>>>> The small generators run on a thimbleful of gas.  The little Honda 
>>>>> runs around $700.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I remember, you and Wally (?) had some interesting storage and 
>>>>> mounting ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, sorry about the lambasting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> brad haslett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I started that discussion and pretty well got
>>>>>> lambasted for it.  The last issue of Practical Sailor
>>>>>> did a review on small generators and chose the Yamaha
>>>>>> by a slight edge over my Honda.  It was my intent to
>>>>>> take it with me on this trip but was one of a dozen
>>>>>> items left behind.  A small generator on board would
>>>>>> have definitely solved our problem of low batteries. I've thought 
>>>>>> about leaving it on the boat but it saved
>>>>>> our arse at home during hurricane Elvis last year, and
>>>>>> kept us from losing all our food after going without
>>>>>> power for three days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>> --- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Weren't you part of the small portable generator
>>>>>>> discussion?  The more I've thought about it, (and after hearing how
>>>>>>> quietly they run) the more interested I've become in that idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you decide against it?  Wouldn't that have
>>>>>>> solved your problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brad haslett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anne,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's not be to harsh on the Bohemians.  I'm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to think of myself as a Bohemian sailor.  My oldest
>>>>>>>> boy and his friends survived Spring Break on the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> boat,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the boat didn't fare as well.  They stayed up all
>>>>>>>> night partying while I slept in the aft cabin.  The
>>>>>>>> second morning we cranked the engine and motored
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> about 30 minutes until the wind picked up, and then
>>>>>>>> raised the sails and a few toasts.  When the wind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> died
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> down we stowed canvas and attempted to start the
>>>>>>>> diesel ginny.  Click, Click, Click!  My battery
>>>>>>>> charger quit a couple of months ago (it was a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> salvage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> unit off the Mayflower), the replacement is on
>>>>>>>> backorder from Sailnet, and apparently we didn't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> motor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> enough to recover from the gazillion hours of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> stereo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> use.  "Not to worry boys!  Its a sailboat!"  The
>>>>>>>> current was drifting us pretty quickly to a rocky
>>>>>>>> shore so I unstowed the main, manned the helm, and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spencer man the halyard winch.  I'm not sure what
>>>>>>>> happened but when the main was fully-up it had
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> about a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> two-foot tear in the top panel.  We sailed back to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> inlet to my marina with what wind (and sail)we had
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> then flagged down a pontoon boat for a tow.  Not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> any pontoon boat, a 350 cubic inch V-8 powered
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pontoon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> boat (didn't know they made such a thing).  I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pulled
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the main off the boat, threw it in a sailbag for
>>>>>>>> repairs, and pressed on with the week.  I purchased
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheap battery charger from Wal-Mart to finish the
>>>>>>>> week's frivolities and sailed on the ginnies, both
>>>>>>>> iron and fabric.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now here's the deal:  my old main was pretty tired
>>>>>>>> anyway.  Last year I debated replacing it but sent
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to SailCare instead.  It came back still somewhat
>>>>>>>> dingy and baggy, unlike the sails I sent to them
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Rhodes-22.  You can only do so much with an old
>>>>>>>> sail.  Replacement costs run from $900+ to $2000
>>>>>>>> depending on the vendor and features.  I'm debating
>>>>>>>> going to a Doyle StackPack.  They haven't given me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> quote yet but I understand its quite expensive.  Do
>>>>>>>> you or anyone on the list have any experience with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> StackPack or know anyone who does?  If my boat were
>>>>>>>> newer I might consider boom-furling but it doesn't
>>>>>>>> make economic sense now.  Of course, I could just
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the damn thing, get another Rhodes-22, and build a
>>>>>>>> cabin on the lake which is what I wanted to do in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> first place!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad Haslett
>>>>>>>> s/v "CoraShen"  (Bohemian registry)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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