[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Cushions

Sat Aug 27 09:07:38 EDT 2005

Wally:  We think so......Rod & Mary


At 08:19 AM 8/27/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>I would be using Stan's cockpit cushions for seating. Are they confortable?
>
>Wally
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>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Cushions
>>Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:37:29 -0400
>>
>>Wally,
>>
>>I have Stan's cockpit cushions.  I almost never sit directly on them.  I 
>>generally sit in a captain's chair, with my feet on the cushions.  I also 
>>have 2 folding seats (available from West for around $50), and 2 beanbag 
>>chairs purchased from the beanbag lady at a boat show for around $75 each.
>>All 6 seats can be comfortably deployed simultaneously.  Each seat is 
>>more comfortable than any seat that comes standard in any sailboat I've 
>>ever been on.
>>
>>Stan's cushions fit perfectly, and have proved very durable.  They are 7 
>>years old and still look brand new.  I store them  (along with all the 
>>other seats) on the settee when not in use.  I put them out immediately 
>>every time I go on board.  This takes around 14 seconds.  I like them for 
>>kneeling when I am pulling in anchors or putting out fenders.  Every now 
>>and again I kneel to do something after I have put away the 
>>cushions.  Boy those seats are hard!
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>Wally Buck wrote:
>>
>>>Bill, It is hard to guess what I would want to spend. You need to 
>>>determine production and shipping costs. From there add the desired mark 
>>>up. That is the price. I am sure GB does not want to carry large cost 
>>>for inventory. I would suspect that prices could be quoted for different 
>>>sizes. Get quotes for 5, 10 25, each.  I have no idea who to go to for 
>>>"quotes" in China but it sounds like there might be folks on this list that do.
>>>
>>>Initially I would want new cockpit cushions with fill in. Also cabin 
>>>cushions. I am considering doing this myself. I am also getting price 
>>>locally. One drawbck to doing them myself is the most likely will look 
>>>like crap. Having them done locally means I can test foam and not pay 
>>>shipping. Ordering from GB means they will fit right but I don't want 
>>>standard foam. In the cabin I want to go with 3 inches of foam with 1 
>>>inch of memory foam glued on top side. I have seen cushions made this 
>>>way and they are great for sleeping and sitting. I am still working on 
>>>best foam for cockpit (with fill in).
>>>
>>>Wally
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?
>>>>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:02:44 -0400
>>>>
>>>>Wally,
>>>>
>>>>Can you put numbers on your desires?  I mean this quite seriously.  I 
>>>>know you use your boat, and I know you want to be fair to Stan.  At 
>>>>what price would you buy various items from Stan?  Which items would 
>>>>you be most interested in?  What would you be willing to pay?  You will 
>>>>not be held to any of this--it is just part of an exercise to see if 
>>>>what we all want can be done.
>>>>
>>>>Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Wally Buck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you are asking me if I have a problem purchasing Chinese made boat 
>>>>>parts from Stan ....If I place my order and send payment to Stan the 
>>>>>source doesn't concern me too much. I would prefer to buy "USA" but I 
>>>>>have owned many imported cars.
>>>>>
>>>>>You also asked if price is holding me back from purchasing boat 
>>>>>goodies from GB. The answer is yes. I would love to have new cabin 
>>>>>cushions, new cockpit cushions, cokcpit fill-in cushions, pop-top 
>>>>>enclosure, bimini. The boom room really doesn't interest me. We 
>>>>>overnight quite a bit. If it is stormy we go in cabin. If it is nice 
>>>>>we like the view from cockpit. We also swim and fish.  I am trying to 
>>>>>decide if I should spend the money on my R22 or perhaps sell and use 
>>>>>the cash from all of those upgrades for .......
>>>>>
>>>>>I forgot, add the battened IMF to my wish  list as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wally
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>To: R22 List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:21:37 -0400
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad Haslett emailed me off-list regarding our discussion of boom 
>>>>>>rooms, etc. which he has been following while vacationing in China.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad asked if anyone would have an interest in his exploring Chinese 
>>>>>>manufacture of Boom Rooms, Sails, Pop-Top Enclosures, Cockpit and 
>>>>>>Cabin Cushions, Cockpit Fill in Boards, -- all the little stuff the 
>>>>>>Chinese can make for a fraction of what it costs to manufacture in the US.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have not asked Stan about this, and I don't think Brad has either, 
>>>>>>however it goes without saying that if Stan doesn't like the idea, 
>>>>>>Brad is not going to do it.  Stan would make money on every item made 
>>>>>>in China, and whatever he says is his cut, that's what he'll 
>>>>>>get.  There will be no negotiation on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But before he even begins the project, Brad wants to know how the 
>>>>>>ultimate consumers feel about this idea.  If Brad can set up 
>>>>>>manufacturing in China with Stan's approval, would Rhodes owners buy 
>>>>>>the Chinese made products?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stan would have to provide the original patterns and specifications, 
>>>>>>but that is all Stan would have to do.  Brad believes he can set up a 
>>>>>>reliable manufacturing operation in China that will produce any of 
>>>>>>these products to Stan's satisfaction at a lower cost than Stan can 
>>>>>>get them produced in the US.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>5 of us indicated an interest in Boom Rooms.  Me, Chris, Dave, Bruce, 
>>>>>>and maybe Bob.  (Did I miss anyone?)  I would be willing to be the 
>>>>>>guinea pig on this. How do the rest of you feel?  Bob, if we could 
>>>>>>bring the price down, at what price would you be a player?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What about people who want Pop Top Enclosures, or Battened IMF sails, 
>>>>>>or cockpit fill in cushions?  Is there a price for these items that 
>>>>>>would prompt you to take money out of your pocket and put it on the table?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at Stan's options prices on his web site 
>>>>>>(http://www.rhodes22.com/super_options.html).  Is there something you 
>>>>>>would actually buy if the price were lower?  If so, what would the 
>>>>>>price have to be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad is returning to the US shortly, and doesn't have much time to 
>>>>>>see if he can set up something like this.  If you think this is a 
>>>>>>terrible idea, please speak up quickly so we all know where we stand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think this is an interesting idea if Brad can actually do it.  It 
>>>>>>is something we can all do to put more money in Stan's pocket right 
>>>>>>away, while buying parts for our boats at a lower cost.  It's a 
>>>>>>win-win...if Brad can pull it off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please note.  Brad is a commercial airline pilot who no longer owns a 
>>>>>>Rhodes 22.  There is nothing in this deal for him.  He will always 
>>>>>>make more money flying an airplane than getting involved in a crazy 
>>>>>>sailboat spare parts Chinese manufacturing scheme.  He just happens 
>>>>>>to be in China right now, saw Stan's Lament, and asked if there was 
>>>>>>anything he could do to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill Effros
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