[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room

Sat Aug 27 14:15:24 EDT 2005

Enjoy!

Maybe Stan made it in the first place?  Let's see if we can track back 
the manufacture.

I'm very interested in fabric sun shades, too.  I am seeing them on a 
lot of boats here.  They can be used while sailing, and make much more 
sense to me than a Bimini.  They roll up easily.  My boat won't do 25 
kts.  I don't need the metal frame of a Bimini while I'm sailing.  With 
our high booms, we should be able to easily shade ourselves with roll up 
sun shades.

 From my window I have an eastern view to the horizon.  In the winter I 
often get up at 5:00 am just to watch the sun rise.  It is 
spectacular--and you've got the whole day in front of you!  A treat.

Bill Effros

Slim wrote:

>Bill,
>
>All I can tell you about its origin is that I bought it used from Lloyd and
>I think it came with his boat.  Not sure.  No idea who made it but it's
>well-made and after four seasons with it, we've had to re-stitch one little
>corner and replace one piece of PCV.  Both easy fixes.
>
>We've used it in winds up to about 15 with no problem.  Much more than that
>and I think there might be trouble.
>
>While using it as a sun shade with most of the panels off, I can still sail.
>Down wind only with the big 175 and no main.
>
>I'm off for a sail today.  I'll try to convince Mary Ann to take some time
>to set the thing up and I'll take a few shots of some of the details.
>
>Slim
>
>P.S.  I was up at 7:45 this morning!  I had no idea what the east sunlight
>looks like in our home.  I kinda like it.
>
>
>On 8/27/05 11:36 AM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
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>>Wow (again) Slim!
>>
>>The music world's loss seems to be the boating world's gain.
>>
>>Saturday morning.  Never expected to hear from you at this time.
>>
>>Your Boom Room looks great!  I want one!
>>
>>Did you guys actually make that thing?  Are your fingers as good with
>>the sewing machine as with the keyboard?
>>
>>I'm serious here.  If you can make some money on it, I've got no problem
>>having boom rooms made in Minnesota instead of China.  You are entitled
>>to your intellectual property in the same way Stan is entitled to his.
>>You know more about this than you've let on.  Heretofore I've only seen
>>the one picture with the 2 cuties distracting me from the technical detail.
>>
>>I think Stan's entire Boom Room fits into a rubber maid container, and
>>that one of his goals has always been to make the whole shooting match
>>as small as possible when not in use.  Maybe this is a bad goal.  Maybe
>>you've solved a lot of structural and cost issues with your PVC pipe,
>>and suggested a place to store them that is under-utilized in my boat,
>>and probably in most others as well.
>>
>>What do you think is your total cost of materials?  How many hours on
>>the sewing machine do you think it would take to turn the parts into a
>>Boom Room?  Do you see any problems in having the technically challenged
>>installing snaps in the right places if they've never done it before?
>>
>>I like the 2 piece nature of the Stan design.  My PTE has a Velcro patch
>>over the Pop Top for attaching the Boom Room, and I assume I would set
>>up the PTE earlier in the evening, and the Boom Room later, after
>>lounging in the open cockpit all evening.  The PTE is so well made, it
>>takes me no more time in the dead of night to set it up, than it does in
>>the day.  I would want the BR to be as well engineered.
>>
>>BTW, I take my folding chairs to the bow for lounging when everyone else
>>is asleep everywhere else.  Totally comfortable.  I think I noticed you
>>are using "Lil Suckers" too.  Put your cup or can in a Lil Sucker,
>>stretch out on the fore deck...what could be better?
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Steve Alm wrote:
>>
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>>>Here are some shots of mine.  Let's talk design.  First, it's made out
>>>of dacron sailcloth--not canvass.  You assemble the frame made of 1"
>>>PVC pipe and attach the roof which hangs from the boom and
>>>height-adjusted with the topping lift.  Then you attach whatever side
>>>panels you want.  You can choose anything from just the roof for a sun
>>>shade to fully enclosed with either screen windows or solid all the
>>>way around.  With the rear panel off, I can stand up on the laz and
>>>cook on the stern-mounted grill.  Otherwise it's standing head room in
>>>the cockpit.  The frame comes apart and stores in a bundle and a long
>>>bag like tent poles.  It's about five feet long and we keep it on the
>>>port shelf in the V berth.  The cloth is folded up and bagged about
>>>the size of a small beach ball and we keep it in the laz next to the
>>>pop top enclosure.  Yes, we have both and use both depending on the
>>>situation.  To clarify--we don't use both at the same time although we
>>>could.  There's no interference or connections between the two.
>>>
>>>A couple minor drawbacks to our boom room:  The forward side panels
>>>snap down along the outside of the rails maximizing the room inside.
>>>Unlike the pop top encl which snaps down on the side of the cabin.
>>>This means the aft lower shrouds are in the way.  So we cut slots in
>>>the roof to go around the shrouds and sewed in velcro flaps to close
>>>the slots.  It works but it's not fully bug proof and leaks a little
>>>water when it rains.  However, the water leaks onto the side decks and
>>>runs off.  The cockpit and cabin stay dry.  It's also difficult to get
>>>to the fore deck when it's fully assembled.  You have to duck and
>>>crawl along the side decks.  Good thing I'm slim.
>>>
>>>It takes 10 or 15 minutes to set up and about 5 to tear down.  I don't
>>>know why any manufacturer would need to have the boat to make this.
>>>Just duplicate the dimensions of the panels.  Just the snap placement
>>>is customized to your own boat, the same as we now do with the PTE.
>>>
>>>It might be better if the two WERE integrated.  You set up the pop top
>>>encl first and then add the boom room if needed.  It would attach to
>>>the PTE and would require less frame and less cloth than mine and
>>>there would be no interference with the shrouds.  And easier to get to
>>>the foredeck.  It would not extend all the way to the mast as mine
>>>does, rather it would just continue aft from the PTE.  But I'd stick
>>>to the PVC frame.  It's cheap and easy to fabricate replacement pieces
>>>if anything breaks.
>>>
>>>Slim
>>>
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