[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room

Sat Aug 27 13:00:52 EDT 2005

Bill,

All I can tell you about its origin is that I bought it used from Lloyd and
I think it came with his boat.  Not sure.  No idea who made it but it's
well-made and after four seasons with it, we've had to re-stitch one little
corner and replace one piece of PCV.  Both easy fixes.

We've used it in winds up to about 15 with no problem.  Much more than that
and I think there might be trouble.

While using it as a sun shade with most of the panels off, I can still sail.
Down wind only with the big 175 and no main.

I'm off for a sail today.  I'll try to convince Mary Ann to take some time
to set the thing up and I'll take a few shots of some of the details.

Slim

P.S.  I was up at 7:45 this morning!  I had no idea what the east sunlight
looks like in our home.  I kinda like it.

On 8/27/05 11:36 AM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Wow (again) Slim!
> 
> The music world's loss seems to be the boating world's gain.
> 
> Saturday morning.  Never expected to hear from you at this time.
> 
> Your Boom Room looks great!  I want one!
> 
> Did you guys actually make that thing?  Are your fingers as good with
> the sewing machine as with the keyboard?
> 
> I'm serious here.  If you can make some money on it, I've got no problem
> having boom rooms made in Minnesota instead of China.  You are entitled
> to your intellectual property in the same way Stan is entitled to his.
> You know more about this than you've let on.  Heretofore I've only seen
> the one picture with the 2 cuties distracting me from the technical detail.
> 
> I think Stan's entire Boom Room fits into a rubber maid container, and
> that one of his goals has always been to make the whole shooting match
> as small as possible when not in use.  Maybe this is a bad goal.  Maybe
> you've solved a lot of structural and cost issues with your PVC pipe,
> and suggested a place to store them that is under-utilized in my boat,
> and probably in most others as well.
> 
> What do you think is your total cost of materials?  How many hours on
> the sewing machine do you think it would take to turn the parts into a
> Boom Room?  Do you see any problems in having the technically challenged
> installing snaps in the right places if they've never done it before?
> 
> I like the 2 piece nature of the Stan design.  My PTE has a Velcro patch
> over the Pop Top for attaching the Boom Room, and I assume I would set
> up the PTE earlier in the evening, and the Boom Room later, after
> lounging in the open cockpit all evening.  The PTE is so well made, it
> takes me no more time in the dead of night to set it up, than it does in
> the day.  I would want the BR to be as well engineered.
> 
> BTW, I take my folding chairs to the bow for lounging when everyone else
> is asleep everywhere else.  Totally comfortable.  I think I noticed you
> are using "Lil Suckers" too.  Put your cup or can in a Lil Sucker,
> stretch out on the fore deck...what could be better?
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
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> Steve Alm wrote:
> 
>> Here are some shots of mine.  Let's talk design.  First, it's made out
>> of dacron sailcloth--not canvass.  You assemble the frame made of 1"
>> PVC pipe and attach the roof which hangs from the boom and
>> height-adjusted with the topping lift.  Then you attach whatever side
>> panels you want.  You can choose anything from just the roof for a sun
>> shade to fully enclosed with either screen windows or solid all the
>> way around.  With the rear panel off, I can stand up on the laz and
>> cook on the stern-mounted grill.  Otherwise it's standing head room in
>> the cockpit.  The frame comes apart and stores in a bundle and a long
>> bag like tent poles.  It's about five feet long and we keep it on the
>> port shelf in the V berth.  The cloth is folded up and bagged about
>> the size of a small beach ball and we keep it in the laz next to the
>> pop top enclosure.  Yes, we have both and use both depending on the
>> situation.  To clarify--we don't use both at the same time although we
>> could.  There's no interference or connections between the two.
>> 
>> A couple minor drawbacks to our boom room:  The forward side panels
>> snap down along the outside of the rails maximizing the room inside.
>> Unlike the pop top encl which snaps down on the side of the cabin.
>> This means the aft lower shrouds are in the way.  So we cut slots in
>> the roof to go around the shrouds and sewed in velcro flaps to close
>> the slots.  It works but it's not fully bug proof and leaks a little
>> water when it rains.  However, the water leaks onto the side decks and
>> runs off.  The cockpit and cabin stay dry.  It's also difficult to get
>> to the fore deck when it's fully assembled.  You have to duck and
>> crawl along the side decks.  Good thing I'm slim.
>> 
>> It takes 10 or 15 minutes to set up and about 5 to tear down.  I don't
>> know why any manufacturer would need to have the boat to make this.
>> Just duplicate the dimensions of the panels.  Just the snap placement
>> is customized to your own boat, the same as we now do with the PTE.
>> 
>> It might be better if the two WERE integrated.  You set up the pop top
>> encl first and then add the boom room if needed.  It would attach to
>> the PTE and would require less frame and less cloth than mine and
>> there would be no interference with the shrouds.  And easier to get to
>> the foredeck.  It would not extend all the way to the mast as mine
>> does, rather it would just continue aft from the PTE.  But I'd stick
>> to the PVC frame.  It's cheap and easy to fabricate replacement pieces
>> if anything breaks.
>> 
>> Slim
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