[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room

[Bill Effros]

Wow (again) Slim!

The music world's loss seems to be the boating world's gain.

Saturday morning.  Never expected to hear from you at this time.

Your Boom Room looks great!  I want one!

Did you guys actually make that thing?  Are your fingers as good with 
the sewing machine as with the keyboard?

I'm serious here.  If you can make some money on it, I've got no problem 
having boom rooms made in Minnesota instead of China.  You are entitled 
to your intellectual property in the same way Stan is entitled to his.  
You know more about this than you've let on.  Heretofore I've only seen 
the one picture with the 2 cuties distracting me from the technical detail.

I think Stan's entire Boom Room fits into a rubber maid container, and 
that one of his goals has always been to make the whole shooting match 
as small as possible when not in use.  Maybe this is a bad goal.  Maybe 
you've solved a lot of structural and cost issues with your PVC pipe, 
and suggested a place to store them that is under-utilized in my boat, 
and probably in most others as well.

What do you think is your total cost of materials?  How many hours on 
the sewing machine do you think it would take to turn the parts into a 
Boom Room?  Do you see any problems in having the technically challenged 
installing snaps in the right places if they've never done it before?

I like the 2 piece nature of the Stan design.  My PTE has a Velcro patch 
over the Pop Top for attaching the Boom Room, and I assume I would set 
up the PTE earlier in the evening, and the Boom Room later, after 
lounging in the open cockpit all evening.  The PTE is so well made, it 
takes me no more time in the dead of night to set it up, than it does in 
the day.  I would want the BR to be as well engineered.

BTW, I take my folding chairs to the bow for lounging when everyone else 
is asleep everywhere else.  Totally comfortable.  I think I noticed you 
are using "Lil Suckers" too.  Put your cup or can in a Lil Sucker, 
stretch out on the fore deck...what could be better?

Bill Effros







Steve Alm wrote:

> Here are some shots of mine.  Let's talk design.  First, it's made out 
> of dacron sailcloth--not canvass.  You assemble the frame made of 1" 
> PVC pipe and attach the roof which hangs from the boom and 
> height-adjusted with the topping lift.  Then you attach whatever side 
> panels you want.  You can choose anything from just the roof for a sun 
> shade to fully enclosed with either screen windows or solid all the 
> way around.  With the rear panel off, I can stand up on the laz and 
> cook on the stern-mounted grill.  Otherwise it's standing head room in 
> the cockpit.  The frame comes apart and stores in a bundle and a long 
> bag like tent poles.  It's about five feet long and we keep it on the 
> port shelf in the V berth.  The cloth is folded up and bagged about 
> the size of a small beach ball and we keep it in the laz next to the 
> pop top enclosure.  Yes, we have both and use both depending on the 
> situation.  To clarify--we don't use both at the same time although we 
> could.  There's no interference or connections between the two.
>
> A couple minor drawbacks to our boom room:  The forward side panels 
> snap down along the outside of the rails maximizing the room inside.  
> Unlike the pop top encl which snaps down on the side of the cabin.  
> This means the aft lower shrouds are in the way.  So we cut slots in 
> the roof to go around the shrouds and sewed in velcro flaps to close 
> the slots.  It works but it's not fully bug proof and leaks a little 
> water when it rains.  However, the water leaks onto the side decks and 
> runs off.  The cockpit and cabin stay dry.  It's also difficult to get 
> to the fore deck when it's fully assembled.  You have to duck and 
> crawl along the side decks.  Good thing I'm slim.
>
> It takes 10 or 15 minutes to set up and about 5 to tear down.  I don't 
> know why any manufacturer would need to have the boat to make this.  
> Just duplicate the dimensions of the panels.  Just the snap placement 
> is customized to your own boat, the same as we now do with the PTE.
>
> It might be better if the two WERE integrated.  You set up the pop top 
> encl first and then add the boom room if needed.  It would attach to 
> the PTE and would require less frame and less cloth than mine and 
> there would be no interference with the shrouds.  And easier to get to 
> the foredeck.  It would not extend all the way to the mast as mine 
> does, rather it would just continue aft from the PTE.  But I'd stick 
> to the PVC frame.  It's cheap and easy to fabricate replacement pieces 
> if anything breaks.
>
> Slim
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