[Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats

[Ronald Lipton]

Bob,

  Congradulations on getting the boat back in the water, and best
of luck with the insurance company.  It was nice to see you and
Kathy in Chicago.

Ron
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Quinn" <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats


> Mark:  Could not have said it any better.  The wood below decks is neat 
> and real "yachtie."  Kathy and I love it.  The work on deck is another 
> story.  A 37' teak toe rail - on both sides none-the-less.  I just 
> finished scraping off 20 some years of "stuff" and coated it with Semco, a 
> Teak preservative. It looks very nice but not bright and shinny.  I'm 
> anxious to see how it will hold up in the Florida sun.
>
> We just splashed the boat  week before last after some hurricane damage 
> (rigging - both running and fixed, a scratch work out, a new stripe, a new 
> section of rub rail, and a new stanchion base)  and a fresh coat of bottom 
> paint.  A couple of chores (new engine hoses, water heater hoses, and 
> refresh of the heat exchanger) to go before we set sail for the Keys 
> again. Can't wait!
>
> We spent time with Elton at the Chicago show and met up with the Chicago 
> Rhodies for dinner.  A great fun group!
>
>
> Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats
>
>
> Brad,
>
> The interior wood doesn't require a lot of maintenance - if varnished,
> there's no UV exposure, so it lasts quite a while. If oiled, a periodic
> cleaning w/ Murphy's keeps it looking nice.
>
> The exterior wood is a bit of a PITA - we've gotten pretty good service 
> from
> Cetol.
>
> I love the woodwork inside the boat. The difference between the interior 
> of
> a Tayana and a more "modern" boat like a Hunter or a Beneteau is a bit 
> like
> the difference between a Victorian house and a double-wide. No comparison 
> in
> workmanship, even though the living space in the double-wide is generally
> lighter and more open. That's not to knock the "more modern" boats - I 
> just
> love the look and feel of that wonderful teak joinery.
>
> And to top it off, the Ta Shing Panda is all curves inside - I just looked
> in Yachtworld, but there's only one on there right now. You can see the
> curve of the settee and the salon, but there are no good pics of the 
> galley
> or the v-berth - both of which are exquisite and were a large reason we so
> liked the boat. The one we looked at had a starburst inlaid salon table 
> and
> the cushions were probably the most comfortable of any boat we looked at.
> Problem is, they're more pricey than the Tayana - they were asking $5K 
> more
> for the Panda we looked at that needed a lot of work than we paid for our
> Tayana that was ready to go. And that was $30-35K less than any other 
> Panda
> on the market at that time. Gorgeous boats, though.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of brad haslett
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:21 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats
>
> Mark,
>
> It took some research but I finally found the Panda, made by Tashing.  I
> love all the Chinese boats, Tashing, Choey Lee, Tayana (my wife would 
> argue
> about whether they are really Chinese but we'll leave that issue alone).
> Frankly, for me, all that wood looks like a lot of work but my friend is a
> woodworker and that would be right up his alley.  We bought this building
> together with the idea that he'd spend more time in the area and on my 
> boat.
> Since he got arrested for public intoxication jogging back to my boat the
> second day there, he wants to use the facilities to for a restoration
> project and tell the rest of society (including the local gestapo) to F/O.
> He's 55, no kids, comfortable nest egg, no obligations except maybe a
> sweetheart in China, he's ready to cruise.  Bastard!
>
> Brad
>
>
> --- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:
>
>> Brad,
>>
>> Back when we were looking, we went to Ft. Lauderdale
>> - there are always a
>> ton of boats for sale down there. Before we found Rachel, we fell in
>> love with a Panda 38 we saw. It was an "ugly duckling"
>> but it was beautiful. We
>> went back to see it twice before we left. Bob Quinn gave us the name
>> of a surveyor in Ft. Pierce and we had him go down and take a quick
>> look - not a full survey - we just wanted to know if there was
>> anything really wrong with it. Turned out the mast step was cracked,
>> all the standing rigging needed to be replaced, it needed all new
>> sails, had wooden decks w/ some water intrusion, and there were
>> several other things wrong with it, too. Then we found Rachel and
>> decided to go with the Tayana - in part because we wanted to go
>> sailing, not spend another year or two and a bunch more "boat bucks"
>> getting ready - and because the Tayana has that "classic" look we
>> love. I still think about that Panda sometimes, though.
>>
>> Below is a short email from another Tayana 37 owner discussing his
>> experience with an Island Packet 38. This guy is sort of the Tayana
>> list's "resident Roger" <g>.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -------------------
>>
>> Just my impression from two long passages in nearly new IP38s from
>> Cape May to halfway to Bermuda and then toward Norfolk....
>> Both IP38s seemed to me
>> to be 'lifeless'  - no helm feedback (rack and pinion), poorly
>> arranged and under strength deck hardwa re and running gear, staysail
>> was very small (I did like the hoyt boom).  When I was on the helm I
>> had to steer more by eyeball than feel or helm pressure.  Both boats
>> had poorly tuned rigging so I cant offer much about what it would be
>> like on a proper ly tuned IP rig.
>> These trips were before I had interest in a Ty37 but convinced me that
>> an IP was NOT to be included in my 'wish list'.  I realized that were
>> set up as the typical 'cruiser's boat' but I do remember that nothing
>> excited me about these b oats .... just a ho-hum experience.
>> Inside they were OK.  Other than an hourly maintenance tour when at
>> sea (my
>> routine) I didnt get deeply into the 'mechanicals'
>> nor structurals but I saw
>> nothing that stood out as 'bad'.  We did catch a near-gale nearing the
>> entrance to Ches and I was su rprised at the pounding of the bow and
>> extreme hobby-horsing into dead-on high chop (and the 'ends'
>> were not loaded), I
>> would have expected a smoother action from such a hull form ... and
>> then a lot of hardware (winches, etc.) started breaking, etc.
>>
>>
>>
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