[Rhodes22-list] Political - for Brad's Eyes - notrelatedtosailing!

[stan]

sorry Mark   I was just responding to some good natured Hillary bashing and 
this is what happened.  When we all can afford bigger boats, we will join 
you...

stan/ec

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:52 AM
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> Oh no! The list is back to politics and I don't have a Rhodes 22 any more.
> Gee, it hardly seems worth it <g>.
>
> Mark
>
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> Brad,
>
> I do not even remember his name yet but the senate minority leader sounded
> good to me, so far (another Truman type?)
>
> Re SS. from a selfish point of view Rose and I are getting ours so why 
> worry
> (but you know I need diversionary entertainment).  So I'll ad that we have
> thought that everyone was looking at this program myopically.  It really
> either was meant to be, or should have been meant to be, a Social Security
> Insurance program where everyone pays into it and only those who need it
> when the time comes take the benefits..  My father-in-law was modestly
> wealthy and kept getting his SS checks which amazed us kids because he
> simply didn't need it and so would put it into the stock market - he was
> ahead of Bush's time.... .
>
> My guess is that while the president is out there pushing his investing in
> the market idea, the market is going to be crashing and kill the vote.
>
> stan/ec
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Political - for Brad's Eyes - not
> relatedtosailing!
>
>
>> Stan,
>>
>> One of the names that keeps coming up for the Dems in
>> 2008 is Tennessee Governor Phil Bredesen.  Evan Bayh shot himself in
>> the foot with a lot of moderates over the Condi vote.  Bredesen was
>> Mayor of Nashville, a self-made multi-millionare from the health care
>> industry, from the Northeast originally, and I voted for him as
>> Governor and probably could as President.
>> Anyway, Bredesen just last month made massive cuts in Tennessee's
>> universal health-care program, Tenn-Care, because it wasn't
>> sustainable and was bankrupting the state.  I think nearly everyone
>> with a heart wants universal access to health care but these huge
>> social programs have so far proven difficult to administer.
>> Ever been to a hospital in China?  Change in our current system is
>> certainly needed but massive government take-over of health care
>> hasn't worked all that well in the communist/socialist countries and I
>> don't see it working well here either.
>>
>> Now as to SS.  Did you read what Greenspan had to say?
>> Certainly everyone that has bought into the myth of SS, like my
>> parents, need to be protected.  But for my kids, they need to be told
>> the truth.  When the program started the ratio was 40 workers for
>> every recipient.  Now its 3 to one.  When I start drawing benefits
>> (I'm not holding my breath on that and am planning otherwise) the
>> ratio will be 2 to 1.  This is a no-brainer Stan.  The numbers don't
>> add up.  When you politize the math and scare the shit out of old
>> people its irresponsible.  I can't honestly look my kids in the eye
>> and tell them that SS is a good deal for them.  The handwriting is on
>> the wall.  This is not a Republican or a Democrat problem, this is
>> simple demographics.  Go to the latest McKinsey newsletter and you'll
>> see China is facing the same problem.  Its simple math!
>>
>> Brad
>>
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