[Rhodes22-list] FW: [chesapeakebay] PFD/Gear Recommendations

[Rik Sandberg]

Brad,

Just one MORE reason why I avoid flying like the plague anymore. Those 
people just cannot figure out who is on their side.

Give a badge to a chimp and right away he turns into a 900 lb gorilla.

Had to laugh, a couple years ago, after this stuff started to tighten 
up, I took a flight somewhere. I had lost one of my pocket knives and 
though I looked through all the pockets of my carry-on bag I didn't see 
it in there. We went through all the security at the front gate, and I 
was even picked out to have the "special" search at the boarding gate. 
(guess I must fit some terrorist profile, you know, white, 50ish, from 
Long Prairie, MN a hotbed of terrorist activity) After all that feeling 
around, x-raying and metal detector waving, Lo and behold, I get where 
I'm going and find my missing pocket knife in one of the pockets of my 
bag. Gosh darn, I could have hijacked that plane to Cuba and I missed my 
chance. :-) :-) BUT, so much for the competence of those security personel.

Rik

brad haslett wrote:

>Mark,
>
>The problem with the "fine print" on all these regs is
>that the enforcement people you deal with, TSA, are
>often rejects from Waffle House.  You may find
>yourself face to face with one of these "experts"
>(after standing in line for an hour) and leaving your
>PFD's behind.  I recently bought a new pair of uniform
>shoes, specifically without steel shanks, so I could
>go through the metal detectors on dead-heads without
>taking my shoes off.  The TSA greeter in Washington's
>Dulles Airport barked, "take your shoes off!"  I
>explained that they had no metal and she replied, "the
>protocal at my airport is heels over 1" have to come
>off!"  For a moment I was tempted to argue that mine
>were only 7/8" and technically it wasn't her airport
>but I really wanted to get home so I let it slide.  A
>friend of mine was arrested and cuffed, while in his
>pilot uniform, here in Memphis because of his
>"attitude".  As he was being lead away the "greeter"
>admonished him this, "bein' a pilot at da airport
>don't mean shit no mo'."  Anyway, the easiest way to
>co-operate and graduate is to FedEx (or UPS) your
>questionable items to your destination.  Lots of sales
>people who sell industrial goods do that now to spare
>themselves the hassle.
>
>Brad
>
>--- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:
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>> 
>>FYI - 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: James H. E. Maugham
>>[mailto:James.H.Maugham at verizon.net] 
>>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:48 PM
>>To: Chesapeake Bay
>>Subject: RE: [chesapeakebay] PFD/Gear
>>Recommendations
>>
>>Paul Blais wrote:
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>>>The regulations give the airlines the ability to
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>>deny anything they 
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>>>think might be dangerous in addition to those
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>>items listed but the 
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>>>regulations do explicitly state compressed gas
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>>cylinders are 
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>>>prohibited.
>>>
>>>They enumerate it at: http://asi.faa.gov/these.asp
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>>With exceptions: "49CFR 175.10(a)(25) With approval
>>of the aircraft
>>operator, a passenger or crew member may carry in
>>checked or carry-on
>>baggage, no more than two small gas cartridges
>>containing no hazardous
>>material other than Division 2.2 gas that are fitted
>>into a self-inflating
>>lifejacket for inflation purposes, plus no more than
>>two spare cartridges".
>>
>>Just stick it in your checked baggage, it will still
>>be there when you
>>arrive at your destination.
>>
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>>>Pressure containers:
>>>Spray cans, butane fuel, scuba tanks, propane
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>>tanks, CO2 cartridges, 
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>>>self-inflating rafts
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>>Toiletries are exempt, ergo you can carry-on or
>>check hairspray, spray
>>deodorant, pressurized shave cream, etc., etc.
>>
>>Empty (evacuated) SCUBA tanks are exempt AFAIK and
>>are carried as baggage.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>James
>>
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