[Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy Replies
Steve
rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 23 06:09:08 EST 2005
Bill
It never stops amazing me your & most liberals lack of
education on history and the true facts on how the
world operates:-)
What even more funny is that you would support a
political party that WHOLE theme is "What is bad for
the country is good for the Democratic Party".
You crack me up:-)
Steve
--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Reagan was too busy selling arms to Iran so he could
> fund the terrorists
> in Nicaragua. Ollie North was the ambassador or
> emissary who destroyed
> documents and lied about his activities to Congress.
> He was convicted
> on 3 counts, but got off on a technicality.
>
> But they are all Republicans, and it's OK if you're
> a Republican.
>
> No partisanship here.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Rob Lowe wrote:
>
> >Hank,
> >I can sort of see that re-reading the post. Guess
> it wasn't that clear to
> >me first time. Sorry! - Rob
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:20 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy Replies
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Rob,
> >>
> >>Read Roger's e-mail a little closer. This was not
> done by the two
> >>administrations. This was done during the Clinton
> administration with
> >>Carter working as an ambassador or emmissary. The
> two of them worked
> >>together to develop this.
> >>
> >>Hank
> >>
> >>
> >>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:14:07 -0500, Rob Lowe
> <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Gee Roger, do I detect a bit of partaininship in
> your response? I seem
> >>>
> >>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>>remember there were two presidents between Carter
> and Clinton, namely
> >>>
> >>>
> >Reagan
> >
> >
> >>>and Bush the first. I seem to recall them being
> part of the appeasement
> >>>process too.
> >>>
> >>>Rob Lowe
> >>>S/V Getaway
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> >>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:09 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy
> Replies
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ed,
> >>>>
> >>>>Boy, scary stuff! It's starting to sound more
> and more like my
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >fearless
> >
> >
> >>>>prediction from late September, 2004 about an
> Israeli military strike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >on
> >
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Iranian nuclear industry is going to come true.
> It's currently late
> >>>>February, 2005 and my original prediction said
> it would happen within
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>>year, or by late September, 2005. I'll stand by
> my original timing.
> >>>>
> >>>>Israel absolutely cannot tolerate an Iran with
> nuclear weapons. It's
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>life
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>or death issue for them.
> >>>>
> >>>>Fortunately, Israel does not have Bill Clinton
> and Jimmy Carter
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>negotiating
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"on their behalf" like the United States did in
> 1994 with North Korea.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >I
> >
> >
> >>>>still can't believe Carter won the Nobel Peace
> Prize in 1994 for that
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>craven
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>piece of appeasement. Now, North Korea has
> nuclear weapons using the
> >>>>"peaceful" nuclear power reactors that Carter &
> Clinton gave them as
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >part
> >
> >
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>that deal. Gee, a tyranical communist dictator
> went back on his word
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>>>treaty obligations and started building nuclear
> weapons about 10
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >minutes
> >
> >
> >>>>after the ink was dry on the 1994 agreement.
> Who would have ever
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >expected
> >
> >
> >>>>that? Clinton & Carter should be tried for high
> treason for setting
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>>>world up for another 50 years of nuclear
> stand-off with a communist
> >>>>dictatorship. That's a best-case scenario, if
> we're "lucky". The
> >>>>worst-case scenarios get considerably scarier.
> >>>>
> >>>>Allow Iran to get nukes? I don't think so!
> >>>>
> >>>>On a brighter note, I saw the 1st sign of spring
> today. The 2005 West
> >>>>Marine and Defender Marine Master Catalogs
> arrived via the US Snail
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >Mail!
> >
> >
> >>>>Can ice breakup be far behind?
> >>>>
> >>>>2000 mockingbirds = two kilomockingbirds cute!
> :)
> >>>>
> >>>>Roger Pihlaja
> >>>>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >>>>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:02 AM
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy
> Replies
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Roger:
> >>>>>You will not convince Bill or his fellow
> travelers of what you are
> >>>>>saying. Iran and for that matter, Syria are
> just trying to help
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >their
> >
> >
> >>>>people
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>to better lives. And what was that message the
> Israelis let slip in
> >>>>>international circles in the last couple of
> days? That they can not
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>wait
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>for the Europeans to resolve the issue. I
> guess we all better sail
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>while
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>can, it is liable to get messy over their.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Some recent info:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_
> >
> >
> >>>>>id=6795
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(page down to nuclear discussion)
> http://billroggio.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id
> >
> >
> >>>>>=7062
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>www.aljazeera.com/cgi-in/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_ID=
> >
> >
> >>>>>6945
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ed K
> >>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
> >>>>>Addendum: 2000 mockingbirds = two
> kilomockingbirds
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:14 AM
> >>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Well said, Roger.
> >>>>>Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Bill,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You have to wonder why they want it. Iran is
> >>>>>>sitting on proven reserves of
> >>>>>>about 1 trillion barrels of crude oil as well
> as
> >>>>>>copious quantities of
> >>>>>>natural gas. The country has excellent warm
> water,
> >>>>>>ice-free port facilities
> >>>>>>to ship their crude oil and natural gas. They
> have
> >>>>>>a pretty good
> >>>>>>intra-country pipeline and refinery
> infrastructure.
> >>>>>>They have zero reserves
> >>>>>>of uranium. At the present rate of energy
> >>>>>>production & given Iran's current
> >>>>>>population, GDP, & growth rate, their proven
> fossil
> >>>>>>fuel reserves will
> >>>>>>supply all their internal energy and export
> needs
> >>>>>>for the next 50-75 years,
> >>>>>>even if the country gets heavily into
> manufacturing
> >>>>>>petrochemicals like
> >>>>>>polyethylene, polypropylene, nylon, etc.
> That's
> >>>>>>enough time to build and
> >>>>>>use up at least 1 generation of nuclear power
> plants
> >>>>>>before they are even
> >>>>>>necessary.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Gee, do you think maybe, just maybe, Iran has
> an
> >>>>>>alternate agenda here?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Roger Pihlaja
> >>>>>>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> >>>>>>To: "R22 List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:52 PM
> >>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Nucular Energy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Been meaning to ask.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>How 'bout that Iran?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Do they get to have nuclear energy, too?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Or is it only safe enough for us?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Bill Effros
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
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