[Rhodes22-list] Bob et al on recycled boats.

Sat Mar 5 08:37:21 EST 2005

To lurkers and prospective buyers:

Ed is absolutely correct.  The boat business is tough for custom builders
and there is no free lunch for buyers.  In my case, attempting to
auto-recycle an old Rhodes to my Champaign tastes, I discovered that the sum
of the parts is actually more expensive than a whole good older boat (if you
can find one) -- so I decided to bite the bullet and not spend any more time
off the water than necessary.  As a renovation and remodeling contractor, I
have handy skills and also have employees who can paint and do fine finish
work -- but the numbers just didn't work for me.  Stan has an efficient
operation in a low wage part of NC, and still must charge upwards of $27,000
for a new boat and $15,000 for a great recycled boat. He delivers value,
even though to most such toys are out of reach.  Otherwise, Stan's biggest
problems would not be in production -- they would be sales.

PT
R22 Raven
R22 Phoenix
Chapel Hill, NC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:02 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob et al on recycled boats.

Yes, the price of recycled boats has apparently gone up.  The price
and availability of replacement parts has changed.  Keep in mind that Stan
is guarantying certain things in a recycled boat.  Whenever he finds
something that needs to be replaced, he also finds the cost have gone up.
Further aggravating him is that he has outlived so many suppliers.  He has
to spend a lot of time just finding suitable replacement parts.
When you get a recycled boat, you get serviceable sails.  Each year
sail prices have gone up.  How much does it cost to replace sheets and
lines?
The price and availability of hulls has gone up.  Furthermore, the
hull usually has extensive rework.  Moreover, purchasers of the recycled
boats can be overly demanding on Stan.
Most purchasers of used sailboats do not have the engineering skills
of Roger or Bob or Todd.  In addition, even those with the skills soon find
that they have underestimated the time to do the necessary work, just ask
Peter Thorn.
Contrary to statements by most sellers of used sailboats, a used
sailboat will require substantial additional cash.  Either you pay it to
Stan or keep reaching deeper in your wallet....

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
Addendum:  You will not have to put up with this source of diatribe after
today for a while.

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Linda Burdett
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:37 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] looking for rhodes 22

Nope!!! evidently they start at 15 and go up!!!! Linda

Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:Isn't 10-15k in the recycled
Rhodes range?

>>> lcathy at sbcglobal.net 03/03/05 2:31 PM >>>
Rob, good point!! Price range about 10-15 thousand. Want it to have the IMF,
marine toilet and bimini along with basics that the rhodes usually have. I
live in MO and would consider meeting half way or......Thanks, Linda

Rob Lowe wrote:Linda,
Before anyone else jumps in to ask, how about some more information. Price
range? Location? Other desires? There are a couple available.

Rob Lowe
S/V Getaway

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Burdett"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:52 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] looking for rhodes 22

> I am new to the list. Stan suggested I post here to find a pre-owned
rhodes for sale. Information would be great. Thanks, Linda Burdett
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