[Rhodes22-list] Bob et al on recycled boats.

[Roger Pihlaja]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bob et al on recycled boats.


> To lurkers and prospective buyers:
>
> Ed is absolutely correct.  The boat business is tough for custom builders
> and there is no free lunch for buyers.  In my case, attempting to
> auto-recycle an old Rhodes to my Champaign tastes, I discovered that the
sum
> of the parts is actually more expensive than a whole good older boat (if
you
> can find one) -- so I decided to bite the bullet and not spend any more
time
> off the water than necessary.  As a renovation and remodeling contractor,
I
> have handy skills and also have employees who can paint and do fine finish
> work -- but the numbers just didn't work for me.  Stan has an efficient
> operation in a low wage part of NC, and still must charge upwards of
$27,000
> for a new boat and $15,000 for a great recycled boat. He delivers value,
> even though to most such toys are out of reach.  Otherwise, Stan's biggest
> problems would not be in production -- they would be sales.
>
> PT
> R22 Raven
> R22 Phoenix
> Chapel Hill, NC
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:02 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob et al on recycled boats.
>
>
> Yes, the price of recycled boats has apparently gone up.  The price
> and availability of replacement parts has changed.  Keep in mind that Stan
> is guarantying certain things in a recycled boat.  Whenever he finds
> something that needs to be replaced, he also finds the cost have gone up.
> Further aggravating him is that he has outlived so many suppliers.  He has
> to spend a lot of time just finding suitable replacement parts.
> When you get a recycled boat, you get serviceable sails.  Each year
> sail prices have gone up.  How much does it cost to replace sheets and
> lines?
> The price and availability of hulls has gone up.  Furthermore, the
> hull usually has extensive rework.  Moreover, purchasers of the recycled
> boats can be overly demanding on Stan.
> Most purchasers of used sailboats do not have the engineering skills
> of Roger or Bob or Todd.  In addition, even those with the skills soon
find
> that they have underestimated the time to do the necessary work, just ask
> Peter Thorn.
> Contrary to statements by most sellers of used sailboats, a used
> sailboat will require substantial additional cash.  Either you pay it to
> Stan or keep reaching deeper in your wallet....
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> Addendum:  You will not have to put up with this source of diatribe after
> today for a while.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Linda Burdett
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:37 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] looking for rhodes 22
>
> Nope!!! evidently they start at 15 and go up!!!! Linda
>
> Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:Isn't 10-15k in the recycled
> Rhodes range?
>
> >>> lcathy at sbcglobal.net 03/03/05 2:31 PM >>>
> Rob, good point!! Price range about 10-15 thousand. Want it to have the
IMF,
> marine toilet and bimini along with basics that the rhodes usually have. I
> live in MO and would consider meeting half way or......Thanks, Linda
>
> Rob Lowe wrote:Linda,
> Before anyone else jumps in to ask, how about some more information. Price
> range? Location? Other desires? There are a couple available.
>
> Rob Lowe
> S/V Getaway
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Burdett"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:52 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] looking for rhodes 22
>
>
> > I am new to the list. Stan suggested I post here to find a pre-owned
> rhodes for sale. Information would be great. Thanks, Linda Burdett
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