[Rhodes22-list] Brad - Air Conditioning

[brad haslett]

Bill,

Trust me, the kind of women Ken hangs with don't need
coaxing to take their clothes off.  He is way more
into minimalist living than I am, but, we both like to
tinker and generators of this size didn't exist until
recently and their adaptation to cruising boats (and
others) are still relatively unexplored.

For a couple of good reads on sailing and cruising get
a copy of "Unlikely Passages" by Reese Palley.  Palley
has some pretty salty tales about women and boats and
some interesting perspectives about life in general. 
A second one is "Sensible Cruising - The Thoreau
Approach" by Don Casey.

I'm going to continue to do the research and expend
the effort just to prove the concept.  Ken probably
won't adapt it in the end because it would require a
dollar of fuel or so a day.  He prefers to invest his
money in malted beverages.

Brad


--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Brad,
> 
> RVs need cooling contraptions because they're not in
> water.
> 
> Tell Ken to try this, instead:
> 
> If his date is overheated and needs to cool off,
> suggest that they both 
> take off all their clothes and jump into the water. 
> If all he wants to 
> do is raft up with a bunch of his buddies who are
> drinking beer and 
> watching TV, then he has really missed the point of
> owning a boat, 
> IMHO.  He and his date can both always climb into a
> buddy's air 
> conditioned floating Winnebago.  Or simply not leave
> home.  But why 
> would you choose to do that?  I guess I just don't
> get it.
> 
> RV guys understand it, so, not having any water to
> jump into, they turn 
> their cars into houses.
> 
> Dates, kids and wives love to jump into the water,
> walk on beaches, and 
> get away from the tiny cramped space that you have
> just demonstrated you 
> can control to allow them to get from one place to
> another.
> 
> I've seen lots of guys try to convince women and
> children that they're 
> having a great time cramped up in a small bed in a
> closet sized space 
> unable to sleep because of the rocking of the boat,
> and the genset noise 
> and gases created by the guys watching television
> and drinking beer 
> together in nearby air conditioned quarters.  It
> don't work.
> 
> If it's too hot to cool off by jumping in the water,
> you shouldn't be on 
> the water.
> 
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> brad haslett wrote:
> 
> >Bill,
> >
> >I hadn't really thought about it that way.  What's
> the
> >name of that new Jane Fonda flick?
> >
> >Here's what I had in mind, found this on an RV
> site.
> >
> >http://www.magnacoach.com/genturi.html
> >
> >The people that flock to NASCAR races have the same
> >problem, lots of RVs in close proximity with
> exhaust
> >gasses down low.  In fact, the RV market has had
> some
> >cases of sucking generator fumes in open windows. 
> >That's why most keep CO alarms on board.
> >
> >Frankly, I'm more than happy to spend overnights at
> >the dock.  This research is more for my friend Ken
> and
> >his anticipated boat purchase.  He's already
> survived
> >being hit by a train, running his airplane out of
> gas,
> >and at least one jealous husband.  He'll be fine!
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Brad,
> >>
> >>I see your point.  It appears there are only about
> 2
> >>deaths a year from 
> >>carbon monoxide poisoning in airplanes, and you
> >>would normally have 3 on 
> >>board, so your odds of everyone on board dying in
> a
> >>single incident in a 
> >>single year look pretty remote.
> >>
> >>On the other hand, the FAA frowns on airplane
> >>exhaust systems that rely 
> >>on coffee can masks and lines holding hoses up
> >>masts.
> >>
> >>Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, the
> >>stifling heat and lack of 
> >>wind are God's way of telling you that a given day
> >>with your family 
> >>might better be spent at an air conditioned movie?
> >>
> >>Bill
> >>
> >>brad haslett wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Bill,
> >>>
> >>>"Children and small wives die faster?"  I hadn't
> >>>really thought of that but there may be a
> business
> >>>opportunity here. 
> >>>
> >>>Actually I'm well aware of the dangers of carbon
> >>>monoxide risks, remember, my first job in the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>aviation
> >>    
> >>
> >>>industry was as an airframe and powerplant
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>mechanic. 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Small airplanes use a shroud around the muffler
> to
> >>>warm ambient air and pump it into the cabin.  Any
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>leak
> >>    
> >>
> >>>in the muffler provides a straight flow of
> exhaust
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>to
> >>    
> >>
> >>>the cockpit.
> >>>
> >>>My boat doesn't have an in-cabin location that
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>would
> >>    
> >>
> >>>be suitable for locating a genset without using
> up
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>too
> >>    
> >>
> >>>much space or being to noisy (same as the R-22). 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>The
> >>    
> >>
> >>>only logical location for the Honda would be
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>topsides.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On larger boats, sailboats included, the genset
> >>>exhausts via an underwater thru-hull, same as the
> >>>engine.  The bulk of the deaths from gensets have
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>been
> >>    
> >>
> >>>on houseboats that port exhaust near a swim
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>platform
> >>    
> >>
> >>>where it accumulates.  The beauty of Bob's design
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>is
> >>    
> >>
> >>>that it takes the exhaust up high where it would
> >>>dissapate.  The attraction of mounting the Honda
> in
> 
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