[Rhodes22-list] So You want Rodger Back was Gasoline spill under the floor

Mon May 30 23:28:38 EDT 2005

Brad,

It would not be good if you left in exchange for Roger coming back.  You 
are not the problem, and it would be a bad trade no matter how anyone 
looks at it.

Bill Effros

brad haslett wrote:

>Michael,
>
>Forgive me "talking out of school" here but I
>contacted Roger offlist and offered some help with
>employment.  My best friend of 30 years is an
>investment counsler in Decatur, Illinois.  Ken is good
>friends and broker for the former #3 of ADM, Archer
>Daniels Midland, producer of 1/5th of the worlds food
>supply, 2nd largest soy bean and corn processer, and 
>#1 supplier of ethanol.  Maybe he thought I was full
>of shit (easy assumption to make) but it was a
>legitimate offer and would have earned him an audience
>with the largest employer in his field.  I was
>strongly rebuffed on pretty explicit terms.  If he
>rejoins he can read the archives and dispute my
>obversation.
>
>I grew up with a father that was un-employed every
>winter (construction) and learned early on never to
>look a gift horse in the mouth - all work is
>dignified.  
>
>It would be good if Roger came back - and perhaps I
>left.  He's a smart guy but everyone gets shit on in
>life, what matters is getting up again and facing the
>next day.
>
>Brad
>
>
>--- Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Well I would also like rodger back also, The problem
>>is thier a few issues.
>>
>>1)he felt 'picked on", and his reaction was "who
>>needs this shit".
>>2)claim he was wasting to much time/non sail/... red
>>herring in my option
>>3)The more major issues is I think he a little
>>depressed, He going on two years for the jobs
>>search, that takes a notch out of any 
>>mans sence of self worth.
>>4)Remeber we talk about sailboat here, a lurury,
>>things are tight for him, sons in collage, food on
>>the table, keeping the light on, 
>>I would not be suprized if the sailboat, that he
>>loves so, might be sold(just me guessing here). I
>>hurts him.
>>5)we know him for 10 years, It's that self worth
>>thing, he thing he lost face to the group.
>>6)How would you felling advicing about toys you
>>could not addford anymore?
>>
>>That the problem, I am not sure of the cure, It
>>would be nice if some friend of the list wrote him,
>>be more tactfull than i was 
>>above(some of it is me guessing),, how much we miss
>>his advice, hows scouts doing, church, son, how we
>>being better boys and girl to 
>>each other, How we real wish he would come back.....
>>
>>Thier is a couple key players from  2 months ago who
>>note might be extra encoraging to him to come
>>back(the point 1 issues).
>>
>>Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>>
>>It up to the list now, most of you are better writer
>>and nicer than me, the more people the better, so
>>good luck
>>
>>MJM
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 4:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gasoline spill under
>>the floor
>>
>>
>>    
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>>>Barry,
>>>
>>>I called a friend of mine who is a chemical
>>>      
>>>
>>salesman
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>>>that specialized in polymers for waste treatment
>>>plants.  He also sells a product in bulk to
>>>      
>>>
>>companies
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>>>that operate seagoing vessels for bilge cleaning. 
>>>      
>>>
>>All
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>>>kinds of nasty stuff, like gasoline on gasoline
>>>barges, gets dumped into the bilge.  Please don't
>>>      
>>>
>>ask
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>>>me to explain the chemistry involved (would
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>>>
>>someone
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>>>please get Roger back) but the stuff works.  You
>>>      
>>>
>>can
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>>>buy small quantities from West Marine, etc.
>>>
>>>Not to understate the potential hazards of your
>>>prediciment, gas vapor is lethal, and that is why
>>>      
>>>
>>all
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>>>gasoline powered inboard boats must have bilge
>>>      
>>>
>>blowers
>>    
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>>>installed.  But, all gasoline powered boats do get
>>>      
>>>
>>gas
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>>>spilled in the bilges sooner or later.  There are
>>>      
>>>
>>tons
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>>>of products out there. Here's one:
>>>
>>>http://www.wsbiosolve.com/marine.htm
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>--- b.ivers at att.net wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>   After a sail on Pyramid Lake. (60 mi. N. of
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Reno)
>>    
>>
>>>>I was cleaning and detailing our 76 model R-22.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>It
>>    
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>>>>was the end of a perfact day. After flushing the
>>>>Yamaha 9.9 I decided to disconnect the fuel line,
>>>>when the phone rang. The call generated a couple
>>>>more calls and I dropped the disconnected fuel
>>>>        
>>>>
>>line
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>>>>in the deep opening at the aft end of the
>>>>        
>>>>
>>cockpit. I
>>    
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>>>>did not know the connector had a bad o-ring.
>>>>Overnight it siphoned 4 gallons of gas under the
>>>>cabin floor.
>>>>   Up to now what I have done is wash with a
>>>>fiberglass friendly degresser and 20 gal of water
>>>>and go for a drive to slosh the liquid around.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Then
>>    
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>>>>using a syarange to evacuate all the liquid and
>>>>clean it up as best I could. I have done this
>>>>        
>>>>
>>twice
>>    
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>>>>with very good results. BUT there is still a
>>>>        
>>>>
>>slight
>>    
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>>>>smell that is not plessant.
>>>>   I am looking for remedy for aftersmell. Ther
>>>>        
>>>>
>>is
>>    
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>>>>no more fire danger so I might use a small 6" fan
>>>>and draw air out of underspace via the 5"
>>>>        
>>>>
>>inspection
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>>>> hole in the center of the cabin. Any other
>>>>        
>>>>
>>ideas. I
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>>>>cannot wait for all the match jokes, flamming
>>>>        
>>>>
>>r-22
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>>>>jokes and usual jabs and pokes. Hit me Rummy I
>>>>deserve it.  Barry
>>>>
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>>>>
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