[Rhodes22-list]Michael, So You want Rodger

Tue May 31 01:33:45 EDT 2005

Michael,
	In addition to Brad, several others have been in communication with
Roger.  I think your first analysis is the right ballpark.  
	In my opinion, what Brad ran into, is related to what you summarized
and a few others have surmised back channel.  
	Let us all hope and pray for a positive outcome.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:39 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] So You want Rodger Back was Gasoline
spillunderthe floor

That was silly thing for him to do. Networking is one of the best way to get
a job(not to mention the commapny saves the 20-33% 
headhunting fee, which can be the desiding factor). Sorry to hear that. Must
be the 20 years at DOW thing. I not above using the 
temple, yatchclub and the "network" when looking. Sorry this happened you
did a good thing. -mjm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] So You want Rodger Back was Gasoline spill
underthe floor

> Michael,
>
> Forgive me "talking out of school" here but I
> contacted Roger offlist and offered some help with
> employment.  My best friend of 30 years is an
> investment counsler in Decatur, Illinois.  Ken is good
> friends and broker for the former #3 of ADM, Archer
> Daniels Midland, producer of 1/5th of the worlds food
> supply, 2nd largest soy bean and corn processer, and
> #1 supplier of ethanol.  Maybe he thought I was full
> of shit (easy assumption to make) but it was a
> legitimate offer and would have earned him an audience
> with the largest employer in his field.  I was
> strongly rebuffed on pretty explicit terms.  If he
> rejoins he can read the archives and dispute my
> obversation.
>
> I grew up with a father that was un-employed every
> winter (construction) and learned early on never to
> look a gift horse in the mouth - all work is
> dignified.
>
> It would be good if Roger came back - and perhaps I
> left.  He's a smart guy but everyone gets shit on in
> life, what matters is getting up again and facing the
> next day.
>
> Brad
>
>
> --- Michael Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
>
>> Well I would also like rodger back also, The problem
>> is thier a few issues.
>>
>> 1)he felt 'picked on", and his reaction was "who
>> needs this shit".
>> 2)claim he was wasting to much time/non sail/... red
>> herring in my option
>> 3)The more major issues is I think he a little
>> depressed, He going on two years for the jobs
>> search, that takes a notch out of any
>> mans sence of self worth.
>> 4)Remeber we talk about sailboat here, a lurury,
>> things are tight for him, sons in collage, food on
>> the table, keeping the light on,
>> I would not be suprized if the sailboat, that he
>> loves so, might be sold(just me guessing here). I
>> hurts him.
>> 5)we know him for 10 years, It's that self worth
>> thing, he thing he lost face to the group.
>> 6)How would you felling advicing about toys you
>> could not addford anymore?
>>
>> That the problem, I am not sure of the cure, It
>> would be nice if some friend of the list wrote him,
>> be more tactfull than i was
>> above(some of it is me guessing),, how much we miss
>> his advice, hows scouts doing, church, son, how we
>> being better boys and girl to
>> each other, How we real wish he would come back.....
>>
>> Thier is a couple key players from  2 months ago who
>> note might be extra encoraging to him to come
>> back(the point 1 issues).
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>>
>> It up to the list now, most of you are better writer
>> and nicer than me, the more people the better, so
>> good luck
>>
>> MJM
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 4:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gasoline spill under
>> the floor
>>
>>
>> > Barry,
>> >
>> > I called a friend of mine who is a chemical
>> salesman
>> > that specialized in polymers for waste treatment
>> > plants.  He also sells a product in bulk to
>> companies
>> > that operate seagoing vessels for bilge cleaning.
>> All
>> > kinds of nasty stuff, like gasoline on gasoline
>> > barges, gets dumped into the bilge.  Please don't
>> ask
>> > me to explain the chemistry involved (would
>> someone
>> > please get Roger back) but the stuff works.  You
>> can
>> > buy small quantities from West Marine, etc.
>> >
>> > Not to understate the potential hazards of your
>> > prediciment, gas vapor is lethal, and that is why
>> all
>> > gasoline powered inboard boats must have bilge
>> blowers
>> > installed.  But, all gasoline powered boats do get
>> gas
>> > spilled in the bilges sooner or later.  There are
>> tons
>> > of products out there. Here's one:
>> >
>> > http://www.wsbiosolve.com/marine.htm
>> >
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > --- b.ivers at att.net wrote:
>> >>    After a sail on Pyramid Lake. (60 mi. N. of
>> Reno)
>> >> I was cleaning and detailing our 76 model R-22.
>> It
>> >> was the end of a perfact day. After flushing the
>> >> Yamaha 9.9 I decided to disconnect the fuel line,
>> >> when the phone rang. The call generated a couple
>> >> more calls and I dropped the disconnected fuel
>> line
>> >> in the deep opening at the aft end of the
>> cockpit. I
>> >> did not know the connector had a bad o-ring.
>> >> Overnight it siphoned 4 gallons of gas under the
>> >> cabin floor.
>> >>    Up to now what I have done is wash with a
>> >> fiberglass friendly degresser and 20 gal of water
>> >> and go for a drive to slosh the liquid around.
>> Then
>> >> using a syarange to evacuate all the liquid and
>> >> clean it up as best I could. I have done this
>> twice
>> >> with very good results. BUT there is still a
>> slight
>> >> smell that is not plessant.
>> >>    I am looking for remedy for aftersmell. Ther
>> is
>> >> no more fire danger so I might use a small 6" fan
>> >> and draw air out of underspace via the 5"
>> inspection
>> >>  hole in the center of the cabin. Any other
>> ideas. I
>> >> cannot wait for all the match jokes, flamming
>> r-22
>> >> jokes and usual jabs and pokes. Hit me Rummy I
>> >> deserve it.  Barry
>> >>
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