@CHECK++ Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric

[Chris Geankoplis]

Saroj,
        Good analogy about the bar fight, y'all need to step out back and
finish the fight out side while we finish our drinks!  And I'm buying when
you guys come back in!
Chris G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 6:13 AM
Subject: @CHECK++ Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory
rhetoric


> Wally, with all due respect, I'm not clear where you are coming from and
why
> you are writing to Rummy about me.  I prefer to be dealt with directly.
>
> I have read and reread my posts, and, frankly I don't see that I attacked
> Herb... I certainly did attack his ideas... I didn't attack him
personally.
> I certainly did use sardonic analogies to show how absurd I think his
ideas
> are.... I didn't call him names.  Actually the whole thing started with my
> response to a post by Bill.  Herb responded with a post that basically
said
> liberals are too stupid to understand what Bennett meant.. and implied
that
> I am a liberal...  Ipso, I am stupid... basic logic syllogism.
>
> This sure sounds like prejudging some one because of their politics.
> Frankly I think I have held back with amazing restraint given his personal
> attack against me.  And then when I stopped responding, he escalated even
> more and wouldn't leave it alone.  The whole dictionary thing demonstrated
> an amazing bout of backpedaling.  The words were out and he wasn't
referring
> to whether or not I'm a canine.
>
> I would appreciate it if you would show me where I "was doing as much
giving
> (actually more) as taking.
>  She unloaded on Herb first and he fired back.".  Let's do the equivalent
of
> "taking it outside" and continue this back-channel".  I'm interested in
your
> point of view, but I don't think it serves the list members to continue
this
> bar fight publicly.  I only ask that you go back and reread all the posts
so
> you are clear how the thing got started and who launched the first attack.
>
> Saroj
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:20 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric
>
>
> > Rummy,
> >
> > I realize Saroj is a long time list member. I have communicated with her
> > off list as I have family living in Hampton. I like Saroj and often I
> > agree with her. BUT - I think Saroj was doing as much giving (actually
> > more) as taking. She unloaded on Herb first and he fired back.
> >
> > I have heard much worse on this list. Do you really think it is cool to
> > tell someone to f-off in a bar?  Sorry Rummy I disagree. I ran a
> > restaurant/bar for 8 years. This type of language may be cool with a
buddy
> > but in a heated exchange with someone you hardly know or just met? I
don't
> > think so. I have had to break up to many bar fights over silly words.
> >
> > Herb defended himself from some pretty harsh words. I agree he could of
> > used a better word than "bitch". Saroj tried to pigeon hole him into her
> > view of all from the right. It turns out Saroj made several mistakes
about
> > Herb in her posts. She pre-judged him because of his politics. Sometimes
> > people's minds aren't really open. Closed minds limit learning; vison
and
> > hearing are shut down.
> >
> > Those of you that have been on this list realize my politics lean more
> > towards Saroj than Herbs but I call them like I see them.
> >
> > I put up with Steve for a long time! :-) This seems pretty tame.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>To: hparsons at parsonsys.com, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric
> >>Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:09:09 EDT
> >>
> >>Herb.
> >>I'm not going to debate this with you. Calling Saroj a "bitch" is
> >>unacceptable. Having an intelligent discussion is acceptable. We all
agree
> >>that  we
> >>don't all agree, but can discuss it without inflammatory rhetoric.
Telling
> >>someone to "fuck off" is acceptable bar language. Name calling is not.
It
> >>will  get
> >>you into a fight in any bar I've ever been in and that's why I stay out
of
> >>bars. The more I drink the worse my vocabulary becomes and I end up
doing
> >>things
> >>  I might later consider stupid.
> >>
> >>Rummy
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