[Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric

[Saroj Gilbert]

Wally, with all due respect, I'm not clear where you are coming from and why 
you are writing to Rummy about me.  I prefer to be dealt with directly.

I have read and reread my posts, and, frankly I don't see that I attacked 
Herb... I certainly did attack his ideas... I didn't attack him personally. 
I certainly did use sardonic analogies to show how absurd I think his ideas 
are.... I didn't call him names.  Actually the whole thing started with my 
response to a post by Bill.  Herb responded with a post that basically said 
liberals are too stupid to understand what Bennett meant.. and implied that 
I am a liberal...  Ipso, I am stupid... basic logic syllogism.

This sure sounds like prejudging some one because of their politics. 
Frankly I think I have held back with amazing restraint given his personal 
attack against me.  And then when I stopped responding, he escalated even 
more and wouldn't leave it alone.  The whole dictionary thing demonstrated 
an amazing bout of backpedaling.  The words were out and he wasn't referring 
to whether or not I'm a canine.

I would appreciate it if you would show me where I "was doing as much giving 
(actually more) as taking.
 She unloaded on Herb first and he fired back.".  Let's do the equivalent of 
"taking it outside" and continue this back-channel".  I'm interested in your 
point of view, but I don't think it serves the list members to continue this 
bar fight publicly.  I only ask that you go back and reread all the posts so 
you are clear how the thing got started and who launched the first attack.

Saroj


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric


> Rummy,
>
> I realize Saroj is a long time list member. I have communicated with her 
> off list as I have family living in Hampton. I like Saroj and often I 
> agree with her. BUT - I think Saroj was doing as much giving (actually 
> more) as taking. She unloaded on Herb first and he fired back.
>
> I have heard much worse on this list. Do you really think it is cool to 
> tell someone to f-off in a bar?  Sorry Rummy I disagree. I ran a 
> restaurant/bar for 8 years. This type of language may be cool with a buddy 
> but in a heated exchange with someone you hardly know or just met? I don't 
> think so. I have had to break up to many bar fights over silly words.
>
> Herb defended himself from some pretty harsh words. I agree he could of 
> used a better word than "bitch". Saroj tried to pigeon hole him into her 
> view of all from the right. It turns out Saroj made several mistakes about 
> Herb in her posts. She pre-judged him because of his politics. Sometimes 
> people's minds aren't really open. Closed minds limit learning; vison and 
> hearing are shut down.
>
> Those of you that have been on this list realize my politics lean more 
> towards Saroj than Herbs but I call them like I see them.
>
> I put up with Steve for a long time! :-) This seems pretty tame.
>
> Wally
>
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>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric
>>Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:09:09 EDT
>>
>>Herb.
>>I'm not going to debate this with you. Calling Saroj a "bitch" is
>>unacceptable. Having an intelligent discussion is acceptable. We all agree 
>>that  we
>>don't all agree, but can discuss it without inflammatory rhetoric. Telling
>>someone to "fuck off" is acceptable bar language. Name calling is not. It 
>>will  get
>>you into a fight in any bar I've ever been in and that's why I stay out of
>>bars. The more I drink the worse my vocabulary becomes and I end up doing 
>>things
>>  I might later consider stupid.
>>
>>Rummy
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