[Rhodes22-list] Blame the

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Fri Sep 9 15:58:54 EDT 2005


You ass, I never said anyone was doing "one heck of a job", even though lots of people are. You again demonstrate your desire and willingness to mislead and mis-state to suit your purposes.

Herb Parsons

S/V O'Jure
  1976 O'Day 25
  Lake Grapevine, N TX

S/V Reve de Papa
  1971 Coronado 35
  Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast

>>> bill at effros.com 9/9/2005 1:34:40 PM >>>
Too bad.  According to Herb (who is on-site) and W. (who personally flew 
over at a height of 2000 feet)  Brownie was doing one heck of a job.  I, 
for one, am sure glad these decisions are not being made for political 
purposes.

Bill Effros

Bill Effros

Bradley, David wrote:

>Just came over the wires - Brown is out.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] 
>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:59 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list; rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
>Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blame the
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>Herb,
>
>Are you intentionally missing the point for political purposes? 
>
>The disaster response was mismanaged. Thousands of Americans died as a
>result. If the failures are 
>covered up rather than examined they cannot be corrected. This is not a
>political issue. The only thing 
>that matters is that FEMA be improved to operate more effectively next
>time. We could start by 
>replacing Mr. Michael Brown, the fellow appointed by the President
>despite the fact that he has who 
>no disaster management experience, with an experienced professional. If
>you dispute this claim 
>about Mr. Brown's lack of experience just access the FEMA website and
>read his resume.
>
>Hugh
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>>From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>Date: 2005/09/09 Fri PM 01:02:26 EDT
>>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blame the
>>
>>Sorry Bill, your attempts to turn this to your political agenda is
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>wrong. Most of it was an act of God, 
>the majority of the rest is an act of people that didn't believe what
>they were told, and chose to stay 
>(many are STILL making that choice). I've never seen so many bull-headed
>people so determined to 
>fulfill there own political agenda's on the graves of these poor people.
>At the risk of sounding 
>personal, your attitude and comments disgust me.
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>>Herb Parsons
>>
>>S/V O'Jure
>>  1976 O'Day 25
>>  Lake Grapevine, N TX
>>
>>S/V Reve de Papa
>>  1971 Coronado 35
>>  Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
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>>>>>bill at effros.com 9/7/2005 11:50:56 AM >>>
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>>Wally,
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>>The death and destruction unfolding on the Gulf Coast is not an "Act
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>of 
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>>God", and I'm going to speak up when anyone tries to shift the 
>>responsibility for this ongoing tragedy from our federal government 
>>either to God or to the victims.
>>
>>The killing damage was not done by the hurricane in New Orleans.  The 
>>center of the hurricane narrowly missed to the East. Gulfport was
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>flattened.
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>>The killing damage in New Orleans happened as a result of Federally 
>>built levees, designed to withstand Category 3 storms, failing, and 
>>allowing the city to fill with water.  The Federal Government then 
>>failed to understand that a catastrophe far worse than any hurricane
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>was 
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>>in the process of unfolding.
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>>You may remember the discussion on this list about the Army Corps of 
>>Engineers saying the water was going to be no problem--that as soon as
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>>the level of the lake water fell below the level of the levee, New 
>>Orleans would naturally drain right back out into the lake.  Just
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>don't 
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>>plug up the holes.  I said that was stupid then.  Is there anyone
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>today 
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>>who wants to argue that it was smart?
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>>The citizens of New Orleans, along with virtually all of their 
>>politicians, begged the federal government to strengthen the levees
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>for 
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>>30 years prior to this collapse.  The Federal government actually 
>>reduced the amount of money, and refused to upgrade the levees.
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>>This is a political disaster, not a natural disaster, although the
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>Swift 
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>>Boat Captains are already out there, trying to rearrange the facts to 
>>fit their politics.
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>>More Americans will die as a result of this man made disaster than
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>will 
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>>die in Afghanistan, Iraq and 9/11 combined.  I have many friends in
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>New 
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>>Orleans who still have not been heard from.  We all hope they just
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>have 
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>>been too busy to call any of us who were out, or who got out.
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>>When a judge ruled after 10 years that a feeding tube could legally be
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>>pulled out of Terri Schiavo, the entire Republican Political machine 
>>hopped on airplanes, interrupted vacations, passed legislation, and 
>>attempted to "save" that one life.
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>>When perhaps 10,000 people in New Orleans were dying, President Bush 
>>never left his ranch except for fund raisers, Congress did not 
>>reconvene, Dick Cheney never left his ranch at all, Condeleeza Rice
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>went 
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>>to see "Spamalot", emergency powers were not invoked, FEMA didn't even
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>>know what was going on, and made the problem worse by turning away
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>help 
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>>that was offered, saying it was not needed, no one asked for
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>aircraft...
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>>And then, Our President told the head of the Federal Agency who he had
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>>appointed to be in charge of Federal Emergency Management "Brownie, 
>>you're doin' a heck of a job!"
>>
>>Wally, I am mad as hell.  I don't think either my politics or my 
>>judgment is clouded.  My friends are dying, and our government is 
>>spending more time trying to cloud your judgment, than it is trying to
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>>address the issues.  If Herb, or Brad, or Ed, or anyone else tries to 
>>shift the responsibility for this tragedy from the government that 
>>actually created it, to the victims who are still literally fighting
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>for 
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>>their lives, they're going to hear from me.
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>>I think of you as a fair minded person who weighs all sides of issues.
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>>If you are confused on this issue, and think that it is my judgment
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>that 
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>>is clouded, then I must address that.  I'm not mad at you.
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>>Our President said on national television, 3 days after the levees
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>broke:
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>>"I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees."
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>>That is catastrophic, tragic, stupidity.  It is obviously not true on 
>>the face of it.  It is the mark of a government that takes no 
>>responsibility for any failed policy or action.
>>
>>MY judgment is clouded by my politics?  I don't think so.
>>
>>Bill Effros
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>>Wally Buck wrote:
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>>>Bill,
>>>
>>>Often I agree with you, sometimes I don't. Your politics are
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>clouding 
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>>>your judgement. This is a Natural Disaster. Try to keep that in
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>mind. 
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>>>This is not the man trying to keep the poor down. Barbara Bush's 
>>>comment could be misread by those trying to do so. My take; she was 
>>>commenting that for many they are trying to look at the bright side.
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>>>They were coming from a less than ideal situation and were hopeful
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>the 
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>>>change might help them. It looked to me like she was trying tio
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>help.
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>>>It does seem the the guy running FEMA was in no way qualified for
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>his 
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>>>job.
>>>
>>>Wally
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>>>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Blame the Victims
>>>>Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:04:54 -0400
>>>>
>>>>Wally,
>>>>
>>>>The campaign to blame the victims is ramping up.  Especially if the
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>>>>victims are poor and black.  The nearby predominantly white city of
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>>>>Chalmette was also wiped out.  Gulfport's evacuation plan didn't 
>>>>work, either.  Biloxi's didn't work.  (For that matter, the Key
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>West 
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>>>>Evacuation plan never works, and just remains a bad joke.)  St. 
>>>>Bernard Parish still hasn't received any Federal help:
>>>>
>>>>"This is Day 8, guys. Everything was diverted first to New Orleans,
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>>>>we understand that. But do you realize we got 18 to 20 feet of
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>water 
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>>>>from the storm, and we've still got 7 to 8 feet of water?" said Ron
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>>>>Silva, a district fire chief. "If you had dropped a bomb on this 
>>>>place, it couldn't be any worse than this."
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish near New Orleans 
>>>>sobbing, told of an emergency management official receiving phone 
>>>>calls from his mother, who, trapped in a nursing home, pleaded day 
>>>>after day for rescue. Assured by federal officials, the man
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>promised 
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>>>>her repeatedly that help was on the way.
>>>>
>>>>"Every day she called him and said, "Are you coming, son? Is
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>somebody 
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>>>>coming?' " Mr. Broussard said. "And he said, 'Yeah, Mama,
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>somebody's 
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>>>>coming to get you.' Somebody's coming to get you on Tuesday. 
>>>>Somebody's coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody's coming to get
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>>>>you on Thursday. Somebody's coming to get you on Friday. And she 
>>>>drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night."
>>>>
>>>>Look at identical pictures of people wading through flood waters 
>>>>holding food--the caption under the black guy's picture is "Looters
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>>>>Running Rampant in New Orleans" the caption under the white guy's 
>>>>picture is "Residents Finding Food to Stay Alive".
>>>>
>>>>And now this news from Barbara Bush:
>>>>
>>>>"What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay
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>>>>in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality and so many
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>>>>of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged 
>>>>anyway, so this is working very well for them."
>>>>
>>>>Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>brad haslett wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>>Wally,
>>>>>
>>>>>It will be years before NO recovers from this, the
>>>>>nation as well, and there will be lots of failing
>>>>>grades passed around when all the investigations are
>>>>>over.  In the meantime, a lot of people are still
>>>>>suffering and still need our help, and money, or both.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last revision of a bad plan from the city of NO
>>>>>was to make and distribute DVD's before this years
>>>>>hurricane season, educating the citizens that in the
>>>>>event of a major hurricane, "you are on your own". The city plan 
>>>>>also included using the city and school
>>>>>system bus fleet for evacuation but even that wasn't
>>>>>implemented.
>>>>>
>>>>>As we speak, the National Guard is still under command
>>>>>of the LA governor.  If regular military units
>>>>>step-in, they can engage in relief efforts only, not
>>>>>law enforcement under the Posse Comitatus Act.  Every
>>>>>FEMA engagement plan assumes that the local
>>>>>authorities will control the first 72 hours.  It is
>>>>>painfully clear that NO either could not or would not
>>>>>do that.  "Cowboy" Bush could have stepped up to the
>>>>>plate and taken over the whole operation early-on
>>>>>through his emergency powers, something no President
>>>>>has done since Reconstruction.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unless we are willing to re-write the constitution
>>>>>dividing the separations of local/state/federal power,
>>>>>we have to assume that each level of government will
>>>>>do their part at the appropriate time.  If they can't
>>>>>or won't, these are the results we get.  Tragically
>>>>>for the citizens of NO, a lot of elected officials
>>>>>failed to do their part.
>>>>>
>>>>>The lesson that should be burning in all our 'noggins'
>>>>>as we discuss these issues is this:  Take
>>>>>responsibility for you and your family's welfare.  Be
>>>>>a Boy Scout - be prepared.
>>>>>
>>>>>Brad
>>>>>
>>>>>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>As always it is hard to figure out the truth. One
>>>>>>thing for sure I have never seen anything like this. It does
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>seems 
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>>>>>>that
>>>>>>many mistakes were made by local, State and Federal officials.
>>>>>>            
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>You 
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>>>>>>can also
>>>>>>second guess anyone who had the means to leave but stayed. I
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>can't 
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>>>>>>see murder
>>>>>>charges for officials but it does seem that Home Land Security 
>>>>>>running FEMA is
>>>>>>a cluster f**k.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did FEMA really send water back? Was the Guard
>>>>>>authorization form just haning out of a fax machine waiting a 
>>>>>>signature or
>>>>>>what? I am not a big Bush fan but it is hard for me to believe
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>that 
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>>>>>>the whole
>>>>>>delay was because Bush was chopping wood. Local officials let the
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>>>>>>people
>>>>>>down years ago by not developing a solid plan. It cost dearly, 
>>>>>>hopefully
>>>>>>other areas learn from this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A nice three days sailing! What a weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wally
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>>>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rummies observation
>>>>>>>Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:28:38 -0400
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nice try, Ed, but it won't wash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1/2 the Louisiana National Guard was in Iraq--along
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>with all of their meals
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>>>>>>>ready to eat, and most of their equipment.  (We
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>have now asked your friends
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>in France to send us food and water trucks.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Walmart immediately sent
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>water, but FEMA sent it back saying New Orleans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>didn't need it.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>The Director of Homeland Security and the Head of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>FEMA both said they
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>>>>>>>didn't even know there were 15,000 people totally
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>>at the mercy of roving
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>gangs within the New Orleans Convention Center at a
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>>time when news
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>>>>>>>organizations were reporting about it on national
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>>television from the site.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>The Governor and Mayor immediately called other
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>>states for help, and the
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>other Governors were ready to send, but W. was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>clearing brush in Texas,
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>>>>>>>Condi was shopping in NYC, -- (August is a vacation
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>month) -- and there was
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>>>>>>>no one in DC to authorize the transfer of National
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Guard troops.  (You see,
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>>>>>>>the states can't just send their armed militias
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>>>>>>into other states, they've
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>>>>>>>got to get authorization from the Federal
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>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>>Government--which didn't happen.
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>>>>>>>And why should it?  "I don't think anyone
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>anticipated the breach of the
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>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>levees" -- George W. Bush, Good Morning America,
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>              
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>>>>>>September 1, 2005.
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>>>>>>>The USS Bataan has been moored in the Gulf since
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>last Monday, basically
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>>>>>>>doing nothing.  It can make 100,000 gallons of
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>>>>>>fresh water a day, it has 6
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>>>>>>>(unused) operating rooms, and hundreds of (empty)
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>>>>>>hospital beds, it's
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>>>>>>>supposed to have helicopters so all these resources
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>>>>>>can be made available
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>>>>>>>to people in disaster areas.  It aided Tsunami
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>victims...
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>>>>>>>PUH-leeze.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bill Effros
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>PS -- This information comes to me, not from the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>New York Times, but from
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>Fox News.  Even Mr. Murdoch has had enough.  It's
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>fine to have an
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>>>>>>>orientation, but it's time to take your head out of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>the sand.
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>>>>>>>ed kroposki wrote:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Mr. Rummy,     You want the Louisiana's Governors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
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>>>>>>head to roll?  But she is a
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>liberal democrat!  Where are your political
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
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>>>>>>loyalties?      You know my
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>>>>>>>>orientation.  The truth is she should have
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>declared
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>>>>>>>>martial law the day before the storm.  On the day
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>of the storm she had
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>>>>>>>>responsibility to call for not only Louisiana
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>>>>>>National Guard but also out
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>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>state Guard assistance.  There was another state
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Governor that said he had
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>>>>>>>>alerted his National Guard and was waiting for a
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>phone call (or any other
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>>>>>>>>official method of request).  How can you be in
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>agreement with me?  This
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>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>impossible.     I will one up you.  Both she and the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Mayor of New Orleans
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>>>>>>>>ought to
>>>>>>>>be tried for murder.  I request that you be put on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
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>>>>>>the jury.  People were
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>>>>>>>>officially told to go to the Superdome and
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>convention center and no
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>>>>>>>>security
>>>>>>>>was in place.  That was a major abdication of
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>responsibility.
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>>>>>>>>    I have no problem holding those who accept high
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>political office to
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>a high standard or even just a reasonable
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>standard.     Why are you on the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>>list, if I lived where you do, I would have been
>>>>>>>>out in that cool breeze.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
>>>>>>>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Behalf Of
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>>>>>>>>R22RumRunner at aol.com 
>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:43 AM
>>>>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hurricane Katrina see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>latest track
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Thena,
>>>>>>>>It is sooooo good to hear from you. I have been
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>traveling for a family
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>members wedding and just returned. The highest gas
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>price we saw was $3.41
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>per  gallon. It was really frustrating watching
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>the news and seeing all
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>people  sitting around and nothing being done.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Some political heads are
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>going to
>>>>>>>>roll  for this fiasco, starting with the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>governor's.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Rummy
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