[Rhodes22-list] Scotch- A couple of letters fell out when I typed it.

[Philip]

Finally, for Julie:  Scot, Scots(wo)man, Scotch(wo)man.  In England and US
the third forms are used by nature, the first sometimes for brevity or for
poetical or rhetorical or jocular effect, & the second in compliment to a
Scotch hearer, Scots- being the prevalent form now used by Scotch people.
The Scotch have always been good gardeners; a Scot by birth; he is a
Scotsman or Scotchman or  a Scot.

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Brad has it right, I believe.  According to A Dictionary of American-English
Usage (based on the Fowlers Modern English Usage).  The only references to
Scotch Whisky I could find was as follows:
 Scotch, Scots, Scottish.  (1)  (as adjs.):  The third represents most
closely the original form, the first and second being the contractions of it
usual in England & Scotland respectively.  Scottish is still both good
English (esp. in formal contexts) &  good Scotch.  Thus, Scottish
Literature, a Scottish lawyer, Scottish Terrier, Scotch Whisky, & Scots
law)sic.  (2) (as nn.):  For the name of the Scotch dialect, the noun
Scottish is little used; Scotch is the English noun, & Scots the usual
Scotch noun.

As for whiskey (Brad has that right too):  whisky, -ey.  Whisky is now the
dominant spelling, but in commercial use -key is often used of the US
product, -ky of the imported.  In Brit., Scotch whisky, but Irish whiskey.
NOTE:  Not only the spelling but the capitalization.

Finally, for Julie:  Scot, Scots(wo)man, Scotch(wo)man.  In England and S
the third forms are used by nature, the first sometimes for brevity r for
poetical or rhetorical or jocular effect, & the second in compliment to a
Scotch hearer, Scots- being the prevalent form now used by Scotch people.
The Scotch have always been good gardeners; a Scot by birth; he is a
Scotsman or Scotchman or  a Scot.


Philip

P.S.  I finally picked up my loaner and have it at the Ft. Belvoir Marina.
As soon as I can figure out how to register it and the trailer and get the
necessary equipment, we may get to sail at least once this year.


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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Julie Thorndycraft
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Slim,
I once referred to myself as Scotch to a friend who is Scottish and got a
royal beating from the lady as she stated 'scotch is a drink, you are
Scottish.' I've added this to my list of PC statements.

Julie


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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 3:32 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scotch


>
> Can somebody please settle an argument?  I say Scotch (whiskey) should be
> capitalized because it refers to a country unlike, for example, rum or
> beer.
> Same goes for Scotch tape and Scotch eggs.  I also think it's proper to
> refer to things Scottish as Scotch, as in my heritage is Scotch or I was
> too
> Scotch to buy it.
>
> Can I get a ruling on this, please, as I sip my Dewars?
>
> Slim
>
>
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