[Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind space
mputnam1 at aol.com
mputnam1 at aol.com
Sat Aug 19 22:12:19 EDT 2006
Oh, now I see what I was misunderstanding [whacking myself on the head] ... I thought the 5200 and the fill material were one and the same. Now I see that you put the 5200 where the wood meets the underside, THEN you put the fill material on top of that once it sets. Duh. As I said, I've never done repairs like this, so I'm not even very good at reading detailed drawings.
- Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: hnw555 at gmail.com
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Sent: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind space
As the drawing shows you put a piece of tape over the hole before you do the
epoxy patch. The epoxy keeps any water from coming through from above and
if water is coming through from below, you have much bigger problems than
the string hole!
Hank
On 8/19/06, mputnam1 at aol.com <mputnam1 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hank/Robert:
>
> Once you cut off the string and push the remnants through, do you then add
> a little more 5200 on the surface to cover the small hole? Or do you not
> worry about that possible entry point for water? And how long does it take
> for the 5200 to set?
>
> Sorry for these questions, but I've never done repair work like this and
> when the day comes that I need to, I just want to make sure I don't screw it
> up!
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hnw555 at gmail.com
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind
> space
>
>
> Mark,
>
> Once the 5200 has set, then the string is no longer needed and can be cut
> off and remnants pushed through with a nail or toothpick. That block ain't
> going nowhere!
>
> Hank
>
> On 8/19/06, mputnam1 at aol.com <mputnam1 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Robert, this may be a dumb question, but what happens to the string?
> Once
> > you start putting the epoxy-fiber filler in place, do you cut the string
> > off? Or keep pulling up the piece of wood and fill around the string and
> > then cut the string? (which would seem to leave a small hole)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: robert at squirrelhaven.com
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Sent: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 3:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind
> > space
> >
> >
> > Slim, I'm not sure of the exact situation that you describe,
> > but the following is a generic fix that you can adapt to
> > your circumstances.
> >
> > The attached drawings show one method of dealing with a cleat
> > whose screws have pulled out of a fiberglass surface where the
> > open space under that surface is not easily accessible.
> >
> > Drawing 1 shows the initial situation. The cleat screws have
> > pulled out of the fiberglass, leaving two ragged holes.
> >
> > Drawing 2 shows the preparation for the fix. An oblong hole
> > has been cut in the fiberglass and the edges have been
> > beveled to improve adherence of a epoxy-fiberglass patch to
> > be applied later. The edge of the hole is at least 1/2" and
> > optimally 1" away from the former screw holes.
> >
> > Drawing 3 shows the marine plywood reinforcing block being
> > inserted thru the hole into the blind space. Note that there
> > is a hole in the middle and a piece of small stuff is used to
> > control it. The string will be used later to hold the block
> > in place while sealant sets up.
> >
> > Drawing 4 shows the block being adhered in place, held up by
> > the string. Any adhesive could be used, but I prefer 3M 5200.
> >
> > Drawing 5 shows the epoxy-and-fiber filler in place, ready to
> > be sanded down and finish-coated (gel-coat, paint or epoxy).
> >
> > Drawing 6 shows the finished repair with the cleat in place.
> >
> > /Robert Skinner Coordinates N43° 41.330', W70° 24.889'
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Slim wrote:
> > >
> > > Rummy,
> > >
> > > Last time I squirted some two-part epoxy into and across the holes,
> > > redrilled and screwed it all back in. It lasted less than a year and
> > has
> > > now stripped out again. It's a thin layer of glass and hollow
> > underneath.
> > > There's nothing substantial for the goop to adhere to and no bulk for
> > the
> > > screws to bite on.
> >
> > Name: Patch-1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 45819 bytes Desc: not available
> > Url:
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-1.jpg
> >
> > Name: Patch-2.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 90528 bytes Desc: not available
> > Url:
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-2.jpg
> >
> > Name: Patch-3.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 40048 bytes Desc: not available
> > Url:
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-3.jpg
> >
> > Name: Patch-4.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 62252 bytes Desc: not available
> > Url:
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-4.jpg
> >
> > Name: Patch-5.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 76236 bytes Desc: not available
> > Url:
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-5.jpg
> >
> > Name: Patch-6.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 67634 bytes Desc: not available
> > Url:
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-6.jpg
> >
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