[Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind space
Hank
hnw555 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 19 22:23:51 EDT 2006
You got it, Mark. Tasks like these seem daunting, but you will definitely
receive a certain satisfaction in figuring it out and doing it yourself.
Good Luck,
Hank
On 8/19/06, mputnam1 at aol.com <mputnam1 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, now I see what I was misunderstanding [whacking myself on the head]
> ... I thought the 5200 and the fill material were one and the same. Now I
> see that you put the 5200 where the wood meets the underside, THEN you put
> the fill material on top of that once it sets. Duh. As I said, I've never
> done repairs like this, so I'm not even very good at reading detailed
> drawings.
>
> - Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hnw555 at gmail.com
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Sent: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 8:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind
> space
>
>
> As the drawing shows you put a piece of tape over the hole before you do
> the
> epoxy patch. The epoxy keeps any water from coming through from above and
> if water is coming through from below, you have much bigger problems than
> the string hole!
>
> Hank
>
> On 8/19/06, mputnam1 at aol.com <mputnam1 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hank/Robert:
> >
> > Once you cut off the string and push the remnants through, do you then
> add
> > a little more 5200 on the surface to cover the small hole? Or do you not
> > worry about that possible entry point for water? And how long does it
> take
> > for the 5200 to set?
> >
> > Sorry for these questions, but I've never done repair work like this and
> > when the day comes that I need to, I just want to make sure I don't
> screw it
> > up!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hnw555 at gmail.com
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Sent: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 7:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind
> > space
> >
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > Once the 5200 has set, then the string is no longer needed and can be
> cut
> > off and remnants pushed through with a nail or toothpick. That block
> ain't
> > going nowhere!
> >
> > Hank
> >
> > On 8/19/06, mputnam1 at aol.com <mputnam1 at aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Robert, this may be a dumb question, but what happens to the string?
> > Once
> > > you start putting the epoxy-fiber filler in place, do you cut the
> string
> > > off? Or keep pulling up the piece of wood and fill around the string
> and
> > > then cut the string? (which would seem to leave a small hole)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > - Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: robert at squirrelhaven.com
> > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Sent: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 3:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Cleat - strong, permanent fix in blind
> > > space
> > >
> > >
> > > Slim, I'm not sure of the exact situation that you describe,
> > > but the following is a generic fix that you can adapt to
> > > your circumstances.
> > >
> > > The attached drawings show one method of dealing with a cleat
> > > whose screws have pulled out of a fiberglass surface where the
> > > open space under that surface is not easily accessible.
> > >
> > > Drawing 1 shows the initial situation. The cleat screws have
> > > pulled out of the fiberglass, leaving two ragged holes.
> > >
> > > Drawing 2 shows the preparation for the fix. An oblong hole
> > > has been cut in the fiberglass and the edges have been
> > > beveled to improve adherence of a epoxy-fiberglass patch to
> > > be applied later. The edge of the hole is at least 1/2" and
> > > optimally 1" away from the former screw holes.
> > >
> > > Drawing 3 shows the marine plywood reinforcing block being
> > > inserted thru the hole into the blind space. Note that there
> > > is a hole in the middle and a piece of small stuff is used to
> > > control it. The string will be used later to hold the block
> > > in place while sealant sets up.
> > >
> > > Drawing 4 shows the block being adhered in place, held up by
> > > the string. Any adhesive could be used, but I prefer 3M 5200.
> > >
> > > Drawing 5 shows the epoxy-and-fiber filler in place, ready to
> > > be sanded down and finish-coated (gel-coat, paint or epoxy).
> > >
> > > Drawing 6 shows the finished repair with the cleat in place.
> > >
> > > /Robert Skinner Coordinates N43° 41.330', W70° 24.889'
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Slim wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rummy,
> > > >
> > > > Last time I squirted some two-part epoxy into and across the holes,
> > > > redrilled and screwed it all back in. It lasted less than a year and
> > > has
> > > > now stripped out again. It's a thin layer of glass and hollow
> > > underneath.
> > > > There's nothing substantial for the goop to adhere to and no bulk
> for
> > > the
> > > > screws to bite on.
> > >
> > > Name: Patch-1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 45819 bytes Desc: not
> available
> > > Url:
> > >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-1.jpg
> > >
> > > Name: Patch-2.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 90528 bytes Desc: not
> available
> > > Url:
> > >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-2.jpg
> > >
> > > Name: Patch-3.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 40048 bytes Desc: not
> available
> > > Url:
> > >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-3.jpg
> > >
> > > Name: Patch-4.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 62252 bytes Desc: not
> available
> > > Url:
> > >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-4.jpg
> > >
> > > Name: Patch-5.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 76236 bytes Desc: not
> available
> > > Url:
> > >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-5.jpg
> > >
> > > Name: Patch-6.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 67634 bytes Desc: not
> available
> > > Url:
> > >
> >
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200608/19/Patch-6.jpg
> > >
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