[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Review

Michel Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Sun Feb 12 13:35:56 EST 2006 

Up to a point, what do you have in mind -mjm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:34 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Review
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Since we've got nothing better to do, have you been keeping up with
the
> Boom Room discussion?
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> Michel Meltzer wrote:
> 
> >I guess I live in the land of deckahance, the plow guy is due :-)
> >
> >-mjm
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:11 PM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
> >>
> >>Michael,
> >>
> >>It's time for my winter toy!  Time to bring out the little backhoe
to
> >>shovel the driveway.  Since my driveway is over 100 yards long, it
> >>really makes a difference.  This amount of snow will take a couple
of
> >>hours to shovel with the front end loader.
> >>
> >>As soon as the snow stops, I'll hop on my pony...actually it's a
> >>
> >>
> >Kubota.
> >
> >
> >>Bill Effros
> >>
> >>Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Did they put up the "home land defenses" posters btw you, about the
> >>>executions zones? Or was that executions zones :-) I thing we are
> >>>
> >>>
> >going
> >
> >
> >>>to psycho ED out about sailing around here.  my question for the
day,
> >>>what about sailing a rhodes22 in a foot of snow. BTW I see you can
> >>>
> >>>
> >post
> >
> >
> >>>so Greenwich did not have it power screwed yet :-)
> >>>
> >>>-mjm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:53 AM
> >>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
> >>>>
> >>>>How about sonar?  To spot the subs?  Could rig a fishfinder...
> >>>>
> >>>>Bill Effros
> >>>>
> >>>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Radar is overkill, but mostly due to price, size and power draw.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >-mjm
> >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Bodnar
> >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:15 AM
> >>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ed,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I think you are missing a point ... although I'm going to defend
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>two.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>When I buy a new car, I option all the latest safety equipment,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >but
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>I'm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>not planning for an accident.  I'm spending the bucks on all
that
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>extra
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>equipment, so that if there is an accident, and if some one
should
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>get
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>hurt, I will know that we had the best chance of survival
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >available
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>at
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Now I've been lucky, I've been out in fog only once, and we
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >decided
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>we would go out anyway to experience it.   It was an excellent
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>learning
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>experience, not necessarily a good day sailing.  We took
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>precautions,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>by
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>sailing in relatively shallow water, (an R22 advantage) to stay
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >out
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>way of faster more powerful boats.  As I said, a learning
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>experience;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>which, I'm sure, will make us better prepared to handle fog when
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >we
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>are
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>out on that clear sunny day in the middle of lake Erie and the
fog
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>closes in.  At that time I will want the best equipment
available,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>will want a GPS to confirm my position and help me make
decisions
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>should I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>be near the shipping channels.  If radar was practical on an
R22,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>I'd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>have
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>it.  However, I've just read about a radio transponder system
that
> >>>>>>commercial vessels are required to use, and monitoring it with a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>MAPPING
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>GPS attached, sounds like a more reliable method of identifying
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >big
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>ships
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>in the area.  As I said the best equipment available.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The second point:  Boys and their toys.  Some of us take pride
in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>our
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>skills and accomplishments, in a minimalist fashion, and others
of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>us
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>get
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>great enjoyment in pressing buttons and watching little teeny
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >boxes
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>do
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>magic  that wasn't even possible with a room full of computers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >using
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Kilo-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>watts of power, a few short years ago.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Dan Bodnar
> >>>>>>S/V QOL (Quality of Life)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >>>>>>>Sent: Feb 12, 2006 9:41 AM
> >>>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, Wally, Mary Lou, big spenders
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  The GPS is great, but how much GPS is necessary?  Is external
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>antenna
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  necessary on a Rhodes 22?  A good hand held is all that is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>necessary.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  The big bucks some want to spend for color wide screen
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>chartplotter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>utter waste.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Wally do you have a mount with external antenna for your
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >kayak?
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>  For night sailing on Lake Hartwell we do not have one
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>lighthouse,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>especially
> >>>>>>>  not Michael's ten lighthouses.  Shipping channels?  Yea we
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >have
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>main
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  channel but as Rummy will tell you about an affair with the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>Carver,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>they
> >>>>>>>  are the ones on autopilot, not the small boats.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  These newbies maybe should learn their boat before they sail
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >in
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>fog,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>at
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>night
> >>>>>>>   or navigate at night or potentially foul weather far from
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >home
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>port.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>By that time
> >>>>>>>   the gear will be outdated.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   As for that Maine sailor who navigates around icebergs to
his
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>island
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>retreat, his fellow
> >>>>>>>   Eskimos did it in kayaks without GPS.   Maybe he should
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>consider
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Eskimo day camp?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   Those worried about getting struck need one of those radar
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>units
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>with
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>hazard
> >>>>>>>   approching warning attached to good klaxon.  You know like
on
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>submarine, dive, dive!
> >>>>>>>   Listen here:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>http://www.classic-car-accessories.co.uk/acatalog/soundtklaxonred.ht
m
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >l
> >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   (Those units are available, but might have a large battery
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>draw,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>where
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>is that spread sheet.)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ed K
> >>>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>View this message in context:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-in-fog-low-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>visibility-Re%3A-GPS-reply-t1104918.html#a2896741
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com.
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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