[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Review
Bill Effros
bill at effros.com
Sun Feb 12 13:52:23 EST 2006
Stan likes Slim's design--the whole cockpit plus cabin enclosure, going
forward of the mast.
People who already own PTEs seem to favor Art's design, which covers
just the cockpit, and connects to the Pop Top, with or without the
enclosure depending on what it is to be used for.
Both have removable panels.
Slim's design would cost less for the entire shooting match.
Art's design is easier to put up, doesn't block forward access, and can
be built out of top quality materials for roughly $1,000. It should be
possible to modify Art's design so it extends over the cabin, but this
would add cost without providing owners of PTEs any additional benefits
(that I can see.)
What do you think?
BTW -- do you have a boom room on the Seward? If I understand Art's
design, it could be modified for other high-boomed boats.
Bill Effros
Michel Meltzer wrote:
>Up to a point, what do you have in mind -mjm
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:34 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Review
>>
>>Michael,
>>
>>Since we've got nothing better to do, have you been keeping up with
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>Boom Room discussion?
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I guess I live in the land of deckahance, the plow guy is due :-)
>>>
>>>-mjm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:11 PM
>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>>>
>>>>Michael,
>>>>
>>>>It's time for my winter toy! Time to bring out the little backhoe
>>>>
>>>>
>to
>
>
>>>>shovel the driveway. Since my driveway is over 100 yards long, it
>>>>really makes a difference. This amount of snow will take a couple
>>>>
>>>>
>of
>
>
>>>>hours to shovel with the front end loader.
>>>>
>>>>As soon as the snow stops, I'll hop on my pony...actually it's a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Kubota.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Did they put up the "home land defenses" posters btw you, about the
>>>>>executions zones? Or was that executions zones :-) I thing we are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>going
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to psycho ED out about sailing around here. my question for the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>day,
>
>
>>>>>what about sailing a rhodes22 in a foot of snow. BTW I see you can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>post
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>so Greenwich did not have it power screwed yet :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>-mjm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:53 AM
>>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How about sonar? To spot the subs? Could rig a fishfinder...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill Effros
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Radar is overkill, but mostly due to price, size and power draw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>-mjm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>>>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Bodnar
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:15 AM
>>>>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ed,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think you are missing a point ... although I'm going to defend
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>two.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When I buy a new car, I option all the latest safety equipment,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>but
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>not planning for an accident. I'm spending the bucks on all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>that
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>extra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>equipment, so that if there is an accident, and if some one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>should
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>get
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>hurt, I will know that we had the best chance of survival
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>available
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Now I've been lucky, I've been out in fog only once, and we
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>decided
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>we would go out anyway to experience it. It was an excellent
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>learning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>experience, not necessarily a good day sailing. We took
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>precautions,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>sailing in relatively shallow water, (an R22 advantage) to stay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>way of faster more powerful boats. As I said, a learning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>experience;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>which, I'm sure, will make us better prepared to handle fog when
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>we
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>out on that clear sunny day in the middle of lake Erie and the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>fog
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>closes in. At that time I will want the best equipment
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>available,
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>will want a GPS to confirm my position and help me make
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>decisions
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>should I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>be near the shipping channels. If radar was practical on an
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>R22,
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>I'd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>it. However, I've just read about a radio transponder system
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>that
>
>
>>>>>>>>commercial vessels are required to use, and monitoring it with a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MAPPING
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>GPS attached, sounds like a more reliable method of identifying
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>big
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ships
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>in the area. As I said the best equipment available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The second point: Boys and their toys. Some of us take pride
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>in
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>our
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>skills and accomplishments, in a minimalist fashion, and others
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>of
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>us
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>great enjoyment in pressing buttons and watching little teeny
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>boxes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>do
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>magic that wasn't even possible with a room full of computers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>using
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kilo-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>watts of power, a few short years ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dan Bodnar
>>>>>>>>S/V QOL (Quality of Life)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Feb 12, 2006 9:41 AM
>>>>>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, Wally, Mary Lou, big spenders
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The GPS is great, but how much GPS is necessary? Is external
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>antenna
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> necessary on a Rhodes 22? A good hand held is all that is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The big bucks some want to spend for color wide screen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>chartplotter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>utter waste.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wally do you have a mount with external antenna for your
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>kayak?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>> For night sailing on Lake Hartwell we do not have one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>lighthouse,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>> not Michael's ten lighthouses. Shipping channels? Yea we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>main
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> channel but as Rummy will tell you about an affair with the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Carver,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>> are the ones on autopilot, not the small boats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These newbies maybe should learn their boat before they sail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>fog,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>night
>>>>>>>>> or navigate at night or potentially foul weather far from
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>home
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>port.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>By that time
>>>>>>>>> the gear will be outdated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As for that Maine sailor who navigates around icebergs to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>his
>
>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>island
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>retreat, his fellow
>>>>>>>>> Eskimos did it in kayaks without GPS. Maybe he should
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>consider
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Eskimo day camp?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those worried about getting struck need one of those radar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>units
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>hazard
>>>>>>>>> approching warning attached to good klaxon. You know like
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>on
>
>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>submarine, dive, dive!
>>>>>>>>> Listen here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.classic-car-accessories.co.uk/acatalog/soundtklaxonred.ht
>>>>>
>>>>>
>m
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>l
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Those units are available, but might have a large battery
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>draw,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>where
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>is that spread sheet.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>View this message in context:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-in-fog-low-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>visibility-Re%3A-GPS-reply-t1104918.html#a2896741
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>__________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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