[Rhodes22-list] Seaworthy

[Peter Thorn]

Bud,

Is that the one written about Boat US insurance claims?

PT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <budconnor at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation


> Pete,
>    I read your posting on the 38' Carolina and both links on the accident.
> Thanks for posting as your messages have not gone un-noticed.  I am
> currently reading a book called Seaworthy which discribes both power and
> sailboat mishaps.  I am amazed at how quick and easy it is to go from
> a pleasant day on the water to tragedy.
>
> -Bud Connor
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> >Sent: Feb 28, 2006 7:18 AM
> >To: Rhodes 22 List Members <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
> >
> >Dave,
> >
> >Last week I posted a few articles about a new 38' Carolina Classic sport
> >fisherman boat that sank recently while en route from Edenton to the
Miami
> >boat show.  It seems no one on the list took much notice, but this event
has
> >intrigued me since I first read about it.   It turns out the Captain was
78
> >years old and evidently experienced.  His mate was 55 and not much was
> >written about him.  Both died of hypothermia resulting from exposure to
cold
> >water when the new boat they were delivering sank in 18' of water, about
5
> >miles from Oriental, NC  near Garbacon shoals.
> >
> >Last Friday I helped my buddy Lawrence deliver his Tanzer 26 from
Oriental
> >to New Bern to prepare for a race last Saturday.  As is our custom, we
ate
> >lunch at M&Ms Restaurant before departing  and happened to sit at the bar
> >next to Captain Larry Walker (who teaches the Captain's courses in
> >Oriental).  We engaged in a discussion about the accident -- it has been
the
> >talk of the town since it happened.
> >
> >Captain Walker made some excellent points I feel are worth sharing.
First,
> >if the lost souls had contacted the Coast Guard, they would doubtless be
> >alive today.  They only had 5 watt hand-held radios with them, which in
3-4'
> >waves may not have been able to transmit that far.  The investigation
> >revealed that other hand helds at that location could not raise the Coast
> >Guard either.   VHF is line of sight and it was blowing 30 that day.   A
> >fixed mount VHF on a sailboat is a big advantage worth acquiring: 25
watts
> >of power and 30' of  antenna elevation.  The higher the antenna, the
longer
> >the range.
> >
> >Captain Walker strongly suggested an EPIRB (Emergency Position Indicating
> >Radio Beacon).
> >http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302025|320637&id=99121
This
> >is a small expensive device that sends a signal up to a satellite and on
to
> >the Coast Guard, telling them you need help.  You just throw it in the
water
> >and it automatically goes to work saving your life.  Don't buy an EPIRB
> >without the built-in GPS feature.  The GPS EPIRB transmits the location
of
> >the EPIRB to the Coast Guard.  This can save lots of time they would
> >otherwise waste on triangulation.  When hypothermia is involved minutes
can
> >be life and death.
> >
> >There are now fixed VHF sets available that connect with your GPS and
have
> >an emergency switch that will transmit your position to nearby vessels
with
> >similar equipment and to the Coast Guard.  (The Uniden UM 525 is one
> >example, on sale now at Defender for $150.)  Evidently, Channel 70 is
soon
> >to be the new emergency channel and these are set up for that too.  These
> >radios are much less expensive and for coastal sailing may be a
reasonable
> >compromise.  However, if the cockpit fills with water and the electrical
> >system shorts out the radio may not be much good and you may wish for an
> >EPIRB.
> >
> >If you are still deciding how to spend money on your new Rhodes, you
might
> >want to consider some of these equipment choices.  I hope you never have
the
> >need to use them.
> >
> >PT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: <DCLewis1 at aol.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:12 AM
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
> >
> >
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >We are in the midst of trying to get our R22 equipped while it?s still at
> >GBI and the matter of instrumentation has come up.   The purpose of  this
> >Email
> >is to solicit input regarding what works.
> >
> >Our current plan is to have a depth finder (Humminbird Mk17?) and
bulkhead
> >compass mounted on the exterior cabin wall.  Questions:
> >- Both  instruments seem to me to be far from the tiller.  In your
> >experience
> >can  you meaningfully use instruments mounted on the cabin (I realize
this
> >may be a  function of your farsightedness, but any input is welcome.).
In
> >particular, would a hand held compass be more useful than a bulkhead
> >compass?
> >If you like a bulkhead compass, any specific recommendations  regarding
> >models
> >and types?
> >- If these instruments are mounted  on the exterior, how do you keep them
> >from walking away?  Has anyone had a  problem in this regard?
> >- I understand the Mk17 has a bezel that facilitates  mounting.  I also
> >think
> >the Mk17 has a 1 year warranty that the display  will be waterproof.  But
> >for
> >the long term, how do you keep the Humminbird  (or any other) depth
> >finder/GPS display secured and out of the weather when the  boat?s
secured?
> >I haven?t
> >identified a cap that would keep the sun and  precip off it and/or secure
it
> >- have I missed something?  I gather there  are a number of Humminbird
users
> >on the board, what do you do?  I believe  there are caps for bulkhead
> >compasses, that protect them from the weather, and  provide some
security,
> >it that what
> >you use?
> >
> >I?m inclined to use a hand held GPS, just because it will be closer to
me.
> >Also, it will be easily secured and I can take it home to program way
> >points
> >etc.  The same GPS could act as a compass.  The alternative is  to use
the
> >Humminbird depth finder with a GPS driver - they make one - or  another
> >bulkhead
> >mounted GPS system.  The Humminbird will have a larger  display, but at
the
> >front of the cockpit.  Again, I?m not sure the  Humminbird can be secured
or
> >kept out of the weather, and I don?t think it will  be a simple matter to
> >take it
> >home to program a course, way points, etc.   Has anyone considered these
> >trades and come to a decision as to the way to  proceed.  Better yet,
does
> >anyone
> >have experience with hand held vice  bulkhead mounted GPS displays.
> >
> >Thanks for any input.
> >
> >Dave
> >
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