[Rhodes22-list] Seaworthy

[Rob Lowe]

Speaking of US boats, don't they have EPIRBs that you can borrow or rent?  I
seem to recall someone's life being saved because they had acquired a loaner
from US Boats prior to an offshore adventure.  Seems like something to check
into before any potentially hazardous passage. - Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Seaworthy


> Bud,
>
> Is that the one written about Boat US insurance claims?
>
> PT
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <budconnor at earthlink.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
>
>
> > Pete,
> >    I read your posting on the 38' Carolina and both links on the
accident.
> > Thanks for posting as your messages have not gone un-noticed.  I am
> > currently reading a book called Seaworthy which discribes both power and
> > sailboat mishaps.  I am amazed at how quick and easy it is to go from
> > a pleasant day on the water to tragedy.
> >
> > -Bud Connor
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> > >Sent: Feb 28, 2006 7:18 AM
> > >To: Rhodes 22 List Members <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
> > >
> > >Dave,
> > >
> > >Last week I posted a few articles about a new 38' Carolina Classic
sport
> > >fisherman boat that sank recently while en route from Edenton to the
> Miami
> > >boat show.  It seems no one on the list took much notice, but this
event
> has
> > >intrigued me since I first read about it.   It turns out the Captain
was
> 78
> > >years old and evidently experienced.  His mate was 55 and not much was
> > >written about him.  Both died of hypothermia resulting from exposure to
> cold
> > >water when the new boat they were delivering sank in 18' of water,
about
> 5
> > >miles from Oriental, NC  near Garbacon shoals.
> > >
> > >Last Friday I helped my buddy Lawrence deliver his Tanzer 26 from
> Oriental
> > >to New Bern to prepare for a race last Saturday.  As is our custom, we
> ate
> > >lunch at M&Ms Restaurant before departing  and happened to sit at the
bar
> > >next to Captain Larry Walker (who teaches the Captain's courses in
> > >Oriental).  We engaged in a discussion about the accident -- it has
been
> the
> > >talk of the town since it happened.
> > >
> > >Captain Walker made some excellent points I feel are worth sharing.
> First,
> > >if the lost souls had contacted the Coast Guard, they would doubtless
be
> > >alive today.  They only had 5 watt hand-held radios with them, which in
> 3-4'
> > >waves may not have been able to transmit that far.  The investigation
> > >revealed that other hand helds at that location could not raise the
Coast
> > >Guard either.   VHF is line of sight and it was blowing 30 that day.
A
> > >fixed mount VHF on a sailboat is a big advantage worth acquiring: 25
> watts
> > >of power and 30' of  antenna elevation.  The higher the antenna, the
> longer
> > >the range.
> > >
> > >Captain Walker strongly suggested an EPIRB (Emergency Position
Indicating
> > >Radio Beacon).
> > >http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302025|320637&id=99121
> This
> > >is a small expensive device that sends a signal up to a satellite and
on
> to
> > >the Coast Guard, telling them you need help.  You just throw it in the
> water
> > >and it automatically goes to work saving your life.  Don't buy an EPIRB
> > >without the built-in GPS feature.  The GPS EPIRB transmits the location
> of
> > >the EPIRB to the Coast Guard.  This can save lots of time they would
> > >otherwise waste on triangulation.  When hypothermia is involved minutes
> can
> > >be life and death.
> > >
> > >There are now fixed VHF sets available that connect with your GPS and
> have
> > >an emergency switch that will transmit your position to nearby vessels
> with
> > >similar equipment and to the Coast Guard.  (The Uniden UM 525 is one
> > >example, on sale now at Defender for $150.)  Evidently, Channel 70 is
> soon
> > >to be the new emergency channel and these are set up for that too.
These
> > >radios are much less expensive and for coastal sailing may be a
> reasonable
> > >compromise.  However, if the cockpit fills with water and the
electrical
> > >system shorts out the radio may not be much good and you may wish for
an
> > >EPIRB.
> > >
> > >If you are still deciding how to spend money on your new Rhodes, you
> might
> > >want to consider some of these equipment choices.  I hope you never
have
> the
> > >need to use them.
> > >
> > >PT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: <DCLewis1 at aol.com>
> > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:12 AM
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >We are in the midst of trying to get our R22 equipped while it?s still
at
> > >GBI and the matter of instrumentation has come up.   The purpose of
this
> > >Email
> > >is to solicit input regarding what works.
> > >
> > >Our current plan is to have a depth finder (Humminbird Mk17?) and
> bulkhead
> > >compass mounted on the exterior cabin wall.  Questions:
> > >- Both  instruments seem to me to be far from the tiller.  In your
> > >experience
> > >can  you meaningfully use instruments mounted on the cabin (I realize
> this
> > >may be a  function of your farsightedness, but any input is welcome.).
> In
> > >particular, would a hand held compass be more useful than a bulkhead
> > >compass?
> > >If you like a bulkhead compass, any specific recommendations  regarding
> > >models
> > >and types?
> > >- If these instruments are mounted  on the exterior, how do you keep
them
> > >from walking away?  Has anyone had a  problem in this regard?
> > >- I understand the Mk17 has a bezel that facilitates  mounting.  I also
> > >think
> > >the Mk17 has a 1 year warranty that the display  will be waterproof.
But
> > >for
> > >the long term, how do you keep the Humminbird  (or any other) depth
> > >finder/GPS display secured and out of the weather when the  boat?s
> secured?
> > >I haven?t
> > >identified a cap that would keep the sun and  precip off it and/or
secure
> it
> > >- have I missed something?  I gather there  are a number of Humminbird
> users
> > >on the board, what do you do?  I believe  there are caps for bulkhead
> > >compasses, that protect them from the weather, and  provide some
> security,
> > >it that what
> > >you use?
> > >
> > >I?m inclined to use a hand held GPS, just because it will be closer to
> me.
> > >Also, it will be easily secured and I can take it home to program way
> > >points
> > >etc.  The same GPS could act as a compass.  The alternative is  to use
> the
> > >Humminbird depth finder with a GPS driver - they make one - or  another
> > >bulkhead
> > >mounted GPS system.  The Humminbird will have a larger  display, but at
> the
> > >front of the cockpit.  Again, I?m not sure the  Humminbird can be
secured
> or
> > >kept out of the weather, and I don?t think it will  be a simple matter
to
> > >take it
> > >home to program a course, way points, etc.   Has anyone considered
these
> > >trades and come to a decision as to the way to  proceed.  Better yet,
> does
> > >anyone
> > >have experience with hand held vice  bulkhead mounted GPS displays.
> > >
> > >Thanks for any input.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
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