[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Design

[William P. Barry, III]

Interested in Bimini Room Ideas: See current photos:

http://www.rhodes22.org/wpb/biminiroom/

Will Barry
wp.barry at att.net




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Design


> Bob,
> 
> Do you know anything about in-field installation of snaps?  Do you 
> envision "do-it-yourself" or professional installation?
> 
> If only the boom supports the fabric you wind up with what some call a 
> "boom-tent"--sort of a high pup tent over your cockpit.  If the boom is 
> used like a ridge pole, then you need some sort of  "rafters" to make 
> the "walls" of the room vertical.  This can be done by providing a 
> frame, which is, I believe, the approach used in Slim's boat, or by 
> draping rafters over the boom and securing them...somehow.  Some people 
> seem to use line secured to stays to keep the roof angle from going down 
> too sharply and depriving the room of a "roomy" feeling.
> 
> Assembling and disassembling this structure takes time, and the poles 
> take up space.  Stan would like the whole room to fit into a Rubbermaid 
> Container.
> 
> If there are poles holding up the sides of the room, what do the poles 
> go into?
> 
> Panels will take longer to assemble than a one piece job, and the 
> resulting structure won't be as strong or tight.
> 
> Slim, Will, Russell -- most of us have never seen a boom room except for 
> your pictures and Stan's.  We are like the blind men and the elephant.  
> We know you like what you got, and we want something like that, too.  
> Your experience is most valued.  Please jump in.
> 
> Stan will jump in when he gets ready.  He knows what has been right, and 
> wrong with all of his previous attempts.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> Bob Keller wrote:
> 
>> Bill,
>> My comments are in CAPS.
>> Bob K
>>
>>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> To: R22 List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Design
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:05:08 -0500
>>>
>>> Trying to summarize the cumulative wisdom on Boom Rooms, (and I know 
>>> I can count on you to correct me if I got something wrong):
>>>
>>> 1.  We anticipate an add-on to the existing Pop Top Enclosure.  GREAT!
>>>
>>> 2.  It won't be a "Bimini Room". GREAT
>>>
>>> 3.  Fabric material, screens, windows will be similar to PTE. YES
>>>
>>> Here are things we need to discuss:
>>>
>>> 4.  The PTE-BR junction will be held together with Velcro (?) THAT 
>>> MAKES SENSE
>>>
>>> 5.  What holds it up? THE BOOM IS THE MOST LOGICAL SUPPORT
>>>
>>> 6.  What holds what holds it up?  (Will this work on all boats?) THE 
>>> BOOM AGAIN!
>>>
>>> 7.  Panels or One Piece.  The BR might have more uses if it went up  
>>> PANELS SOUND BEST
>>> in panels.  One panel could be used as a sun shade if it could be 
>>> mounted below the boom, and remained independent of the boom so it 
>>> could be used instead of a Bimini while sailing.  Panels could be 
>>> added over time to reduce the initial cost.  But the resulting 
>>> structure wouldn't be as solid.
>>>
>>>
>>> 8.  And how about:
>>>
>>> On-site installation techniques -- Snaps must be added to boats? YES
>>>
>>> Multiple Use Considerations --
>>>
>>> Are removable battens in the fabric viable for structural support?  
>>> SUPPORT PERPENDICULAR TO THE BOOM MUST BE STRONG BUT ARE CRITICAL
>>>
>>> Can the stays be used for support? MAYBE
>>>
>>> Can the topping lift be used for support? YES
>>>
>>> Can the structure be tied down instead of snapped into position?  I 
>>> WOULD PREFER SNAPS FOR SECURITY, SIMPLICITY AND A BETTER FIT.
>>>
>>>
>>> It appears there are 4-5 somewhat solid orders for Boom Rooms.  This 
>>> is enough to make patterns, and commission work.  Stan is welcome to 
>>> take whatever he wants from this deal, we just would like to get the 
>>> best Boom Rooms that have ever been made.
>>>
>>> Dave will be going down to Edenton to make final decisions for his 
>>> own boat, and to find out from Stan where he wants to be in the Boom 
>>> Room Syndicate.  Any thoughts on this matter from anyone are welcome.
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
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