[Rhodes22-list] New Sails, CDI

[Peter Thorn]

George,

I haven't really thought that far yet.  I'm still trying to run a business
*and* deal with my "boat problem" -- 4 sailboats.  Can only sail one at any
given time.   They say admitting you have a problem is the first step.  Does
anyone know the second step?

I've had very good results over the years with Hunter Riddle, chief of
Schurr Sails, Pensacola, FL.   Having been the class measurer for the Tanzer
16 class, I've measured many one-design Schurr Sails.  They have the
computerized cutting capacity to build sails to maximum size and know how to
use it.

Mack Sails, also in FL, has a good reputation too.  And there's a new Doyle
Loft in Oriental run by Mark Weisenhiemer (sp?) who seems pretty competent.
A nice guy as well.

So, being a GC, I'll probably just write up a spec and put out to bid.
Logical, right?

PT

R22 s/v Raven
R22 s/v Phoenix
T16 1427
T16 161
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Carpenter" <geocarp3 at mchsi.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sails, CDI


> Peter:  I, too, want to replace my 175 genoa...and for the same reasons.
> Where do you plan to purchase your 155?
>
>     George
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sails, CDI
>
>
> > Rod,
> >
> > For what it's worth Raven's CDI FF2 is a bit longer than the pin-to-pin
> > dimension minus 12 1/4".  I think the CDI is about 5 or 6" less than the
> > forestay pin-to-pin.  It has always worked very well.
> >
> > Raven's CDI might have been rigged by GBI or perhaps PO once-removed
Gary
> > Stanford.  Mark Kaynor purchased the boat from Gary in about 2001 and in
> > early 2005 ago sold it to me.  The 175, however, is cut about 12" less
in
> > the luff than the CDI length, or about 17-18" inches short of the
> > masthead.
> > I don't know why sailmakers leave so much luff area unused, but it seems
> > to
> > be commonly done. I wonder if the uppers stays are an issue?
> >
> > I like your selection of sails and am considering a higher clewed and
full
> > luffed 155 to replace Raven's aging and original decksweeping 175.  In
> > light
> > air (under 4) it's difficult to fill Raven's old Lee Sails 175 because
the
> > cloth is too heavy.  At 15 knots the 175 is too much sail and must be
> > furled.  So, I'm thinking a fuller luffed 155 of 3.4 oz Dacron cloth
might
> > work better.  With a higher clew (check out the higher clewed Genoa in
the
> > opening photo on the GBI website) perhaps the headsail would tack more
> > easily too, keeping the clew above the turnbuckles etc. In light air (we
> > have lots in the summer) I sit on the lee side and a higher clew would
> > also
> > allow better vision under the leeward bow headsail foot.  Lastly, the
155
> > would be best for PHRF racing to avoid a rating penalty.  Unless I learn
> > of
> > a good reason not to, I plan to order the sail full luff. It seems a no
> > brainer to collect all the available sail area for the same LP
> > measurement.
> >
> > Raven came with a 2003 high clewed Mack Sails main. It's a nice sail and
> > furls very well, but it's preventing me from purchasing one of  Stan's
> > improved vertical batten mains.  That seems like a great idea!  I would
> > like
> > to know how your helm balances with you new sails.  Perhaps more area in
> > the
> > main and less up front might improve a slight tendency for leeward helm
in
> > light air.
> >
> > Happy sailing,
> >
> > PT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ellner" <ellner at pressenter.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:40 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Sails, CDI
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> New vertical batten IMF main and 150% genoa and new CDI.
> >>
> >> I hope to take the old sails off this weekend. I'll try to get it done
in
> >> the early morning before the winds picks up.
> >>
> >> Thanks to Stan for the fast turn around time and good service.
> >>
> >> Right now I'm getting my courage up enough to cut the luff to match the
> >> forestay. The directions look pretty straight forward.
> >> The luff is to be cut 12 1/4" less than the pin to pin measurement of
the
> >> forestay. Has anyone done this recently?
> >> My forestay measurement is 28'-4" with the turnbuckle at about mid
point.
> >>
> >> Rod Ellner
> >> Toy Blew
> >>
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