[Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax (political humor)

[DCLewis1 at aol.com]

Luis, PT, & Brad,
 
This is interesting.  Seems to me that if the IRS has issued an ITIN  for 
legal and illegal aliens, and the govt also has a summary of green  cards/work 
permits/whatever they should be able to identify illegals pretty  easily.  I 
wonder what the problem is?  Or maybe, as PT suggests, the  govt really doesn’t 
care - just send $.
 
Re Brad’s dreams: I think I understand what he’s trying to convey.   These 
guys are reported to be very hard working and conscientious.  I’ve  met some 
and they seem like good people.  But there’s another side to the  problem that 
he may not have observed.  Some years ago my wife and I  were foster parents 
for several years, as a foster parent you take kids into  your house until the 
adult parents can get their lives squared away.  Over  a period of time you see 
a number of “families” and kids.  We’ve  encountered what I’m sure are 
illegal aliens - ladies (kids are invariably tied  to the women) who came north 
because there are better social services and  physical infrastructure (e.g. 
indoor plumbing) and a government that will not  ask questions.  The ladies 
relating to foster care may have a variety of  children - I’m told that large 
families are a cultural thing.  Some may  work at regular jobs, but the ones we know 
don’t, they subsist on the shadow  economy or mooch off one of the hard 
working guys Brad dreams about, or  both.  To an overwhelming extent, they subsist 
on the illegal cash economy  PT refers to.  These ladies, and especially their 
numerous children,   are a substantial burden (i.e. cost) to the social 
infrastructure.  For  example, as I recall, in Washington it costs about 
$12k/yr/student to support  the public schools - we know one lady with 5 kids and has 
not held a regular job  as long as we've known her; there’s no way at all that 
lady makes any meaningful  contribution to the support the education of her 
kids - or anything  else.  I really doubt the ones I know of have ever paid any 
taxes, all  their work is in the shadow economy (i.e. selling bottled water on 
street  corners - turns out you can make a lot of money doing that in 
Washington).   The social services burden (schools, medical care, low income housing, 
police,  etc) didn’t appear in Brad’s dreams, but I think that’s what’s 
driving the  reaction to illegal immigration along the border and in Calif.
 
One other insight: the prime driver to admitting illegals appears to me  that 
they are willing to work very hard and conscientiously at jobs many  
Americans disdain.  Basically, they are good people and they want to be  here.  But it’
s important to understand that admitting these people,  especially the women, 
 has long term consequences ; they will have families  (large families) and 
the children may, or may not, be nearly as motivated as the  parent.  What I've 
seen is the children of dysfunctional  families, really matriarchies,  
fitting right into the underclass  culture that disdains any hard work and/or 
educational achievement.  This  is going to drive a geometric demand for even more 
social services   From my perspective, this is not a happy prospect. 
 
Dave