[Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax (political humor)

[Luis Guzman]

All, 
   
  I was not trying to defend ilegal aliens, but just pointing my experience while translating during the tax season.
   
  Yes, there all kind of people everywhere we go. But  that is what makes life interesting. We would be bored if we would not have challenges in life.
   
  I guess we could try to filter out the bad guys and the leeches that bleed our system. Maybe we could just trade our own american bad guys and leeches for the good guys from abroad.
   
  Do not let anybody in who does not sail or drink rum. Let's kick all non sailors out of the country.
   
  I can't think about this anymore. I'm grabbing my bottle of rum and I'm going out for a sail.
   
  Luis
   
   
  DCLewis1 at aol.com wrote:
  
Luis, PT, & Brad,

This is interesting. Seems to me that if the IRS has issued an ITIN for 
legal and illegal aliens, and the govt also has a summary of green cards/work 
permits/whatever they should be able to identify illegals pretty easily. I 
wonder what the problem is? Or maybe, as PT suggests, the govt really doesn’t 
care - just send $.

Re Brad’s dreams: I think I understand what he’s trying to convey. These 
guys are reported to be very hard working and conscientious. I’ve met some 
and they seem like good people. But there’s another side to the problem that 
he may not have observed. Some years ago my wife and I were foster parents 
for several years, as a foster parent you take kids into your house until the 
adult parents can get their lives squared away. Over a period of time you see 
a number of “families” and kids. We’ve encountered what I’m sure are 
illegal aliens - ladies (kids are invariably tied to the women) who came north 
because there are better social services and physical infrastructure (e.g. 
indoor plumbing) and a government that will not ask questions. The ladies 
relating to foster care may have a variety of children - I’m told that large 
families are a cultural thing. Some may work at regular jobs, but the ones we know 
don’t, they subsist on the shadow economy or mooch off one of the hard 
working guys Brad dreams about, or both. To an overwhelming extent, they subsist 
on the illegal cash economy PT refers to. These ladies, and especially their 
numerous children, are a substantial burden (i.e. cost) to the social 
infrastructure. For example, as I recall, in Washington it costs about 
$12k/yr/student to support the public schools - we know one lady with 5 kids and has 
not held a regular job as long as we've known her; there’s no way at all that 
lady makes any meaningful contribution to the support the education of her 
kids - or anything else. I really doubt the ones I know of have ever paid any 
taxes, all their work is in the shadow economy (i.e. selling bottled water on 
street corners - turns out you can make a lot of money doing that in 
Washington). The social services burden (schools, medical care, low income housing, 
police, etc) didn’t appear in Brad’s dreams, but I think that’s what’s 
driving the reaction to illegal immigration along the border and in Calif.

One other insight: the prime driver to admitting illegals appears to me that 
they are willing to work very hard and conscientiously at jobs many 
Americans disdain. Basically, they are good people and they want to be here. But it’
s important to understand that admitting these people, especially the women, 
has long term consequences ; they will have families (large families) and 
the children may, or may not, be nearly as motivated as the parent. What I've 
seen is the children of dysfunctional families, really matriarchies, 
fitting right into the underclass culture that disdains any hard work and/or 
educational achievement. This is going to drive a geometric demand for even more 
social services From my perspective, this is not a happy prospect. 

Dave
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