[Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project

Bud budconnor at earthlink.net
Wed May 10 07:24:42 EDT 2006


Claude,
  how many circuits are you planning to install?

-Bud Connor

Claude Cox wrote:

>Todd;
>
>Thanks for your response.  You are not out of order for suggesting I may be
>in over my head on this project.  I have been trying to get with one of the
>best marine electrics person in the area, but he is incredibly busy. 
>Should I reach the point where I recognize my incompetence to proceed
>further, I'll try a professional.  Rummy has offered to help as long as I
>keep the rum barrel full, and I know he has completed several electrical
>upgrades, so I may put out for the rum, and call him in.
>
>You asked a few questions:  my boat is set up fairly simply--nav lights,
>cabin lights, steaming light, instruments, and VHF.  The two Grp 27
>wet-cell batteries that came with the boat have died from benign neglect. 
>What I know about DC circuits is what I've read in preparation for this
>project--I understand the basics, but I am a visual learner, and it would
>be most helpful to see this stuff done by a pro at least once.  What do I
>know about AC circuits?  Stay the hell away from it unless you know what
>you are doing.  I appreciate your suggestion to do the simpler things now,
>and let a pro tackle the AC stuff later, and, as a matter of fact, have
>been considering just that.  A simple wiring schematic would not be a
>problem.  I had thought of paralleling batteries to double the amp hours.
>
>The original location of the electrical panel (just above the step into the
>cabin) is somewhat vulnerable--more than once I have kicked the panel,
>unintentionally closing a circuit.  In addition, the space will not
>accommodate the larger panel I'm planning to install.
>
>Thanks for your questions; keep asking--you may ask me some I should have
>thought of, but didn't.
>
>Claude    
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>>[Original Message]
>>From: Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Date: 5/8/2006 11:56:57 PM
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project
>>
>>Claude,
>>
>>Comparing your list of electrical wiring necessities and desires to your
>>questions of actually doing the wiring....and forgive me for saying
>>this....but it seems you may be in a bit over your head.  I am basing
>>this assumption on your questions about wiring lights in a series on the
>>same circuit.  I am afraid to think about how to explain to you, how to
>>do advanced wiring like tying AC shore power in to the boats electrical
>>system, paralleling batteries, adding in chargers, monitors, and 110v
>>outlets.  Maybe some of us here can help get you started with the basic
>>DC system first.  Then down the road you could tackle the shore power,
>>chargers, outlets, and monitors.
>>
>>Let me ask you a few basic questions so we know where to start helping.
>>
>>How is your boat set up now? 
>>
>>How much do you know about (DC) electrical circuits?
>>
>>How much do you know about (AC) circuits?
>>
>>  Do you know how to read simple wiring schematics, and understand the
>>difference between series and parallel circuits?
>>
>>Why do you want to relocate the main electrical panel?
>>
>>Todd T.
>>
>>(I know Michael is cringing right now)
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "Claude Cox"
>>  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
>>  Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 21:29:49 -0400
>>
>>
>>  Hi Everyone;
>>
>>  I don't say much on the list, but I lurk, and listen real good.
>>  For those of you who don't know me: Celtic Lass is docked at
>>  Aqualand Marina, Lake Lanier, 45 minutes from Atlanta. She is a
>>  recycled (2000) 1986, and has become like a project boat, as I am
>>  upgrading the electrical system in preparation for doing some
>>  serious trailer sailing. It is around this project that my issues
>>  revolve. I have looked in the archives for help, and, while
>>  getting some good info, I don't get all that I need. Knowing of
>>  the vast expertise on this list, I have worked up the courage to
>>  put my issues before you, and seek your help with a project that
>>  sometimes feels overwhelming.
>>
>>  I have gutted the cabin, leaving only the galley counter top,
>>  compression post/panel, and the potty; this to see the wire "runs"
>>  to determine if I could do the necessary wiring/re-wiring. I am:
>>  (1) moving the electrical panel to a spot above the galley and on
>>  the compression post/panel that separates the galley from the
>>  V-berth; (2) installing two Grp 27 Lifeline AGM batteries,
>>  paralleled; a battery monitor; a battery charger; a couple of 12VDC
>>  outlets; a 110 V outlet; a 30A shore-power inlet, and an anchor
>>  light.
>>
>>  I understand what's to be done. I've read and re-read Don Casey
>>  (Sailboat Electrics Simplified), and Charlie Wing (Boatowner's
>>  Illustrated Handbook of Wiring). Understanding is not the
>>  problem--execution is. For example: I will have nav lights on one
>>  circuit, cabin lights on one circuit, and steaming light, anchor
>>  light, instruments, and VHF each on their own cirucit. How do I do
>>  the wiring, especially lights in a series on the same circuit (I'm
>>  asking about actually doing the wiritng correctly)? What am I
>>  missing here? I feel like there are other questions I should ask,
>>  but don't know what they are. Maybe some of you know. If you do,
>>  I would greatly appreciate knowing what they are.
>>
>>  This has been a long post, I know, and I appreciate you taking time
>>  to read it. As a retired school teacher, I can't say anything
>>  briefly. All responses will be much appreciated, and I will
>>  certainly keep the list posted as to my progress.
>>
>>  Claude
>>
>>
>>  Claude Cox
>>  cccox at mindspring.com
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