[Rhodes22-list] Hunting

[bgreenwald at optonline.net]

Andrew,

I don't have a slack line (should I?)  My mooring, which was initially done by Justin's predecessor but is now maintained by him, has two lines coming off the mooring ball, each ending in a large loop.  I run one of each through a chock on each bow side of the deck and then run each loop around the bow cleat.  The two lines and loops are referred to (by me anyway) as the bridle.  So the upshot is that a line is coming over each side of the bow and tied to the cleat in the center.  I have no idea if this a preferred method of mooring the boat - it is simply using what I have.  I do not have any chafe protection on the lines coming thru the chocks because there is not enough room for both the lines and protection but, like Bill, I have never seen any evidence of chafing.

I am hoping to launch Sunday - look forward to seeing you on the water.

Bruce Greenwald
S/V Ruach II

----- Original Message -----
From: andrew collins <engineerpac at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hunting

> Bill & Bruce -
> 
> After more observation it seems that a small planing v-hull motor boat
> nearby has very similar behavior. The R22 hull per GBI brochure is a
> semi-displacement hull, whatever that means. The motor boat has 
> similarhull, but more windage due to the cabin.
> The deep keel on the bigger sails seems like the stabilizer here. 
> Yesterdayevening was clamer, but as we all know, contrary to what 
> the marine
> contractors tell you,  the boats in the mooring field were not all 
> lined up
> in the same direction.
> 
> The winds at the mooring are definitely influenced by the nearby 
> upwind tree
> ( the wind was out of the NW these last days), nearby buildings, 
> the point
> itself, etc. creating turbulence. The mooring was put in by Justin 
> of Old
> Greenwich Marine
> 
> Upon mooring the boat for the first time Elton and I both felt the 
> pendantto be too short. There is also a heavy loop off of the 
> mooring ball to which
> I tied the slack line leading to the bow eye. It is independent of the
> pendant. Bruce is this what you call the bridle? It does look like 
> one.
> Per Bill's advice I will:
> 
> First try number 2, observe the results, and then try number 1 by 
> switchingthe slack line to the center cleat, and put the pendant 
> on the bow eye with
> a snap shackle. Should a thimble be in the pendant eye?
> 
> A science experiment!
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On 5/25/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > I haven't tried this, because I come from the "If it ain't 
> broke, don't
> > fix it" school, but I believe there are 2 things you might try 
> to lessen
> > hunting:
> >
> > 1.  Moor from your bow eye instead of your bow cleat.  (Put a 
> slack back
> > up on the bow cleat.)
> >
> > 2.  Loop a line from the bow cleat, over the port side, through your
> > mooring line eye, and back over the bow cleat from the starboard 
> side.> They recommend this for bare boats in the BVI to lessen 
> hunting, and
> > reduce chafing.
> >
> > Chafing has been a zero problem for me over the 8 years my 
> Rhodes has
> > been on a mooring in Greenwich Cove.
> >
> > I have a chafe guard over my mooring line where it rubs on the rub
> > rail.  I have never even thought about replacing the chafe guard 
> because> it does not chafe.
> >
> > I spend a lot of time on my mooring in my boat, and it does not hunt
> > very much.  Sometimes on anchor it hunts much more.  Part of it 
> is where
> > your boat happens to be.
> >
> > Bill Effros
> >
> >
> > R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > > Andrew,
> > > It's what is called hunting as others have stated. It is a common
> > trait  with
> > > the R22 on a mooring. It's caused by a combination of things 
> inherent> with
> > > the R22 design, not a flaw.
> > > I don't know of any sure cure for this.
> > >
> > > Rummy
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> 
> 
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