[Rhodes22-list] Hunting

[andrew collins]

Bruce -

Your set-up sounds like the right way to do it. Justin only gave me one line
off the ball, Bill E's solution 2 would give me a similar set up to yours. I
feel this will help. Commodore Spitzer himself drew me a sketch with the
slack line and recommended it. When CS talks, I listen. If anyone wants to
see it I'll scan it and post to the list.

Good luck with the launch. Invite me to spectate or help, I was on the boat
when Elton launched so I missed the show.

Wally - I keep the rudder all the way up out of the water and locked in the
center with the tiller extension in the slot, and a bungee up to the stern
rail pulling the extension up into the slot because the extension locking
mechanism is a bit worn, and Murphy has a tendency to jump out of the inky
shadows.

Andrew

On 5/25/06, bgreenwald at optonline.net <bgreenwald at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I don't have a slack line (should I?)  My mooring, which was initially
> done by Justin's predecessor but is now maintained by him, has two lines
> coming off the mooring ball, each ending in a large loop.  I run one of each
> through a chock on each bow side of the deck and then run each loop around
> the bow cleat.  The two lines and loops are referred to (by me anyway) as
> the bridle.  So the upshot is that a line is coming over each side of the
> bow and tied to the cleat in the center.  I have no idea if this a preferred
> method of mooring the boat - it is simply using what I have.  I do not have
> any chafe protection on the lines coming thru the chocks because there is
> not enough room for both the lines and protection but, like Bill, I have
> never seen any evidence of chafing.
>
> I am hoping to launch Sunday - look forward to seeing you on the water.
>
> Bruce Greenwald
> S/V Ruach II
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andrew collins <engineerpac at gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hunting
>
> > Bill & Bruce -
> >
> > After more observation it seems that a small planing v-hull motor boat
> > nearby has very similar behavior. The R22 hull per GBI brochure is a
> > semi-displacement hull, whatever that means. The motor boat has
> > similarhull, but more windage due to the cabin.
> > The deep keel on the bigger sails seems like the stabilizer here.
> > Yesterdayevening was clamer, but as we all know, contrary to what
> > the marine
> > contractors tell you,  the boats in the mooring field were not all
> > lined up
> > in the same direction.
> >
> > The winds at the mooring are definitely influenced by the nearby
> > upwind tree
> > ( the wind was out of the NW these last days), nearby buildings,
> > the point
> > itself, etc. creating turbulence. The mooring was put in by Justin
> > of Old
> > Greenwich Marine
> >
> > Upon mooring the boat for the first time Elton and I both felt the
> > pendantto be too short. There is also a heavy loop off of the
> > mooring ball to which
> > I tied the slack line leading to the bow eye. It is independent of the
> > pendant. Bruce is this what you call the bridle? It does look like
> > one.
> > Per Bill's advice I will:
> >
> > First try number 2, observe the results, and then try number 1 by
> > switchingthe slack line to the center cleat, and put the pendant
> > on the bow eye with
> > a snap shackle. Should a thimble be in the pendant eye?
> >
> > A science experiment!
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > On 5/25/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrew,
> > >
> > > I haven't tried this, because I come from the "If it ain't
> > broke, don't
> > > fix it" school, but I believe there are 2 things you might try
> > to lessen
> > > hunting:
> > >
> > > 1.  Moor from your bow eye instead of your bow cleat.  (Put a
> > slack back
> > > up on the bow cleat.)
> > >
> > > 2.  Loop a line from the bow cleat, over the port side, through your
> > > mooring line eye, and back over the bow cleat from the starboard
> > side.> They recommend this for bare boats in the BVI to lessen
> > hunting, and
> > > reduce chafing.
> > >
> > > Chafing has been a zero problem for me over the 8 years my
> > Rhodes has
> > > been on a mooring in Greenwich Cove.
> > >
> > > I have a chafe guard over my mooring line where it rubs on the rub
> > > rail.  I have never even thought about replacing the chafe guard
> > because> it does not chafe.
> > >
> > > I spend a lot of time on my mooring in my boat, and it does not hunt
> > > very much.  Sometimes on anchor it hunts much more.  Part of it
> > is where
> > > your boat happens to be.
> > >
> > > Bill Effros
> > >
> > >
> > > R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> > > > Andrew,
> > > > It's what is called hunting as others have stated. It is a common
> > > trait  with
> > > > the R22 on a mooring. It's caused by a combination of things
> > inherent> with
> > > > the R22 design, not a flaw.
> > > > I don't know of any sure cure for this.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy
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-- 
Andrew