[Rhodes22-list] Know the Enemy

[3drecon at comcast.net]

The last paragraph should be CHAIN of command.
sorry.

Philip

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From: 3drecon at comcast.net 

> Brad, 
> First, I will say I was no fan of the Clintons, J. Carter or the liberal 
> approach in general. Having said that, this war with Islam has been going on 
> for centuries (someone on the list (you?) sent the map of Middle East 
> conflicts). Western Europe fought the Ottomans on and off for years. The Arabs 
> always maintained shaky truces with their colonial masters but the tenant of 
> their jihad remained the same. 1948 provided the means, a manageable target, 
> propaganda, a general unifying message for them. Now they could focus the 
> hatred against anything non-muslim. I don't blame Jimmy Carter for creating the 
> jihad or fueling it. I don't agree with his approach, and hindsight would teach 
> he fumbled, but he thought it best at the time and with the USSR and China in 
> play, he had a lot to consider. 
> 
> Reagan dropped the ball when he withdrew the USMC from Lebanon and I am a 
> great fan of the Gipper. On that issue, I completely disagreed with him. He 
> had an opportunity there to slam them good in the name of retaliation. 
> 
> Clinton inherited the problem. I completely disagree with his approach to 
> treat international terrorism as a criminal justice issue, but that is the 
> defining difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. The Democrats 
> want to treat this "war" as a criminal issue, the Republicans want to treat it 
> like a war. 
> 
> Treating the situation like a criminal problem immediately confers rights 
> on the terrorists and limits our approach to capturing them (law enforcement's 
> mission is not to break things and kill the bad guys as a first resort). Then 
> in court, punishment is limited and we have to disclose how we caught them 
> (secret intelligence methods) or gathered evidence. Then there are warrants, 
> extradition. The advantage is, we don't send hundreds of troops. It costs 
> less. We, hopefully, get the cooperation of many nations and some cooperate 
> behind the scenes and so are more likely to cooperate. 
> 
> Going to war with them has the disadvantages. We are not fighting a 
> sovereign nation with a standing army with a clear change of command. 
> Casualties are broadcast daily and the population becomes weary of the war (the 
> same thing even happened in WWII and the goals were more clear than at anytime 
> since). I costs the country vast amounts of its treasure. They have a PR 
> advantage and other countries may not agree with us. There are those countries 
> that might like to cooperate but won't because of their population sentiments 
> (for example: the Arab street). Our Army can't just bomb and shoot for fear of 
> colateral damage which is less of a consideration when facing another army. 
> 
> I could go on. I like this video though because it makes clear who the enemy 
> really is and what they say when the western camera is not on them. 
> 
> Philip 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Brad Haslett" 
> 
> > Philip, 
> > 
> > Thanks for the video. I'm about halfway through the book "The Looming 
> > Towers", which is what the recent TV documentary that upset the Clintonites 
> > so much was based on. Most of the book is about the rise of al Qaeda and 
> > the jihadists. I'm convinced by everything I've read from various sources 
> > this will be a long difficult struggle. Iraq is frustrating because we are 
> > fighting so many different entities there. Yeah, it has a patina of a 
> > Shiite v Suni civil war, but what goes seldom mentioned is the outside 
> > players; Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and others that provide men and 
> > arms to the Iraqi insurgents. There's plenty to criticise about the conduct 
> > of the battle for Iraq, but I firmly believe it is but one front in a much 
> > larger war. If we don't have the stomach to continue the fight there, the 
> > fight will come to us on our soil. Just ask Osama. Frankly, al Qaeda is 
> > much better at PR than we are. They must be laughing their asses off at how 
> > the Muslim Brotherhood has stirred Somali cab drivers into action in the 
> > Midwest while we discuss color codes. 
> > 
> > Brad 
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/2/06, 3drecon at comcast.net <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Want to know how the muslims really feel about us? 
> > > This is a 12 minute version of a longer documentary film. It seems these 
> > > people have no political correctness issues to slow them down. 
> > > 
> > > Philip 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Don't care? No problem: 
> > > 
> > > Learn Arabic. And buy a Koran. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Unless you're willing to fight them. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6331994107023396223&hl=en 
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