[Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits

TN Rhodey tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 6 07:43:05 EST 2006 

Full disclosure would be nice.  Lobbiest are running this country. More 
changes are needed.

Wally


>From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits
>Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 13:22:20 -0500
>
>A. See my last paragraph.  Repeal the XVII Amendment.
>B. There should be no post service perks for Congress and Senate.
>C. I don't think there should be campaign finance restrictions, but there
>should be FULL disclosure.
>
>Philip
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of TN Rhodey
>Sent:	Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:19 AM
>To:	rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject:	RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits
>
>I can understand why people are for term limits I think they are a bad 
>idea.
>Just take away (or reduce) all PAC money and appearance money for all
>politicians. Take a look at campaign contribution laws and make some
>changes. Why would you want to vote out a great politician just because his
>term limit was up?
>
>My local congressman is Rep. Jimmy Duncan. I vote for him every election 
>and
>did so again this year. Duncan is one of the few Rep. to vote against the
>war with Iraq. I liked him before this mess but I like him even more now. 
>It
>would be a shame if he was forced out.
>
>What I really hate is a fat cat who uses out of state money to buy his
>election. When I lived in NC Jesse Helms would take donations from out of
>state interests groups that had nothing to do with NC. He set records for
>spending that made it next to impossible for anyone to have a fair shot at
>winning. Helms never got my vote! We need to make it so an incumbent 
>doesn't
>have such a huge financial advantage when campaiging.
>
>Wally
>
>
> >From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits
> >Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:17:47 -0500
> >
> >That is why I don't like term limits but would like to see the post 
>service
> >perks go away.  That way they would stay only after they worked to secure
> >theirs and their families' futures.  Then if they wanted to come to 
>office,
> >they could.  You wouldn't see so many "career" politicians.  Also, 
>remember
> >who the constituency of the Senate is. . . the STATE.  The problem is, 
>the
> >XVII Amendment made senators popularly elected (originally they were
> >elected
> >by the state legislature).  Now they pander to the people, sometimes
> >against
> >the states' interests.  They are no longer a sure check against excesses 
>of
> >the Congress and we have the "rule by mob (majority)" the founders 
>feared.
> >The XVII Amendment took a key piece out of our Republic.  It should be
> >repealed.
> >
> >Philip
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >Sent:	Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:10 AM
> >To:	The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject:	[Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits
> >
> >I don't know what I think about Term Limits, either.  Robert Byrd has
> >been an excellent Senator for West Virginia.  He brought home the bacon
> >for his constituents.  He also learned how to operate in that
> >environment over time.  Would we get better legislation if everybody was
> >a newcomer?  Or would the congressional staffs just shift from one
> >legislator to the next--with the real power residing in the hands of
> >staff doing things the elected person doesn't really understand?
> >
> >My brother is a Washington Lobbyist.  Most legislation today is written
> >by lobbyists.  I don't know how I feel about that, either.  They know
> >far more about their individual issues than elected people trying to
> >master thousands of topics on very short notice.
> >
> >To the extent we underpay elected officials we insure that we will elect
> >only crooks and millionaires.  Who else would take this job?
> >
> >Revolving door legislators who leave their jobs to join government,
> >write legislation that favors their previous employer, and then leave
> >government to rejoin their now enriched companies, doesn't seem like
> >such a great idea, either.
> >
> >Bill Effros
> >
> >Philip wrote:
> > > Rummy,
> > >     The premise for all federal government intrusion into state 
>affairs
> > > (like education) is the acceptance of the state of federal funds.  If
> >you
> > > accept funding you have an obligation to obey.  I don't think this was
> >ever
> > > in the founder's intent.
> > >
> > >     Bill,
> > >       Earlier you mentioned Term Limits.  I don't like them.  The
> >Founders
> > > debated it and decided the best way was for the people to have a 
>choice.
> >I
> > > do believe that neither the Congress nor the Senate should have 
>pensions
> >or
> > > post service medical benefits.  All pay and benefits should end when
> >they
> > > leave.  What do you get?  Term limits!
> > >
> > > Philip
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of
> > > R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > > Sent:	Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:47 AM
> > > To:	rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Subject:	[Rhodes22-list] No child left behind.
> > >
> > > You are all going to love this little tid bit.
> > >
> > > _http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html_
> > > (http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html)
> > >
> > >
> > > Rummy
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