[Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits

[Philip]

A. See my last paragraph.  Repeal the XVII Amendment.
B. There should be no post service perks for Congress and Senate.
C. I don't think there should be campaign finance restrictions, but there
should be FULL disclosure.

Philip


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of TN Rhodey
Sent:	Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:19 AM
To:	rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject:	RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits

I can understand why people are for term limits I think they are a bad idea.
Just take away (or reduce) all PAC money and appearance money for all
politicians. Take a look at campaign contribution laws and make some
changes. Why would you want to vote out a great politician just because his
term limit was up?

My local congressman is Rep. Jimmy Duncan. I vote for him every election and
did so again this year. Duncan is one of the few Rep. to vote against the
war with Iraq. I liked him before this mess but I like him even more now. It
would be a shame if he was forced out.

What I really hate is a fat cat who uses out of state money to buy his
election. When I lived in NC Jesse Helms would take donations from out of
state interests groups that had nothing to do with NC. He set records for
spending that made it next to impossible for anyone to have a fair shot at
winning. Helms never got my vote! We need to make it so an incumbent doesn't
have such a huge financial advantage when campaiging.

Wally


>From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
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>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits
>Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:17:47 -0500
>
>That is why I don't like term limits but would like to see the post service
>perks go away.  That way they would stay only after they worked to secure
>theirs and their families' futures.  Then if they wanted to come to office,
>they could.  You wouldn't see so many "career" politicians.  Also, remember
>who the constituency of the Senate is. . . the STATE.  The problem is, the
>XVII Amendment made senators popularly elected (originally they were
>elected
>by the state legislature).  Now they pander to the people, sometimes
>against
>the states' interests.  They are no longer a sure check against excesses of
>the Congress and we have the "rule by mob (majority)" the founders feared.
>The XVII Amendment took a key piece out of our Republic.  It should be
>repealed.
>
>Philip
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>Sent:	Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:10 AM
>To:	The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject:	[Rhodes22-list] Politics: Term Limits
>
>I don't know what I think about Term Limits, either.  Robert Byrd has
>been an excellent Senator for West Virginia.  He brought home the bacon
>for his constituents.  He also learned how to operate in that
>environment over time.  Would we get better legislation if everybody was
>a newcomer?  Or would the congressional staffs just shift from one
>legislator to the next--with the real power residing in the hands of
>staff doing things the elected person doesn't really understand?
>
>My brother is a Washington Lobbyist.  Most legislation today is written
>by lobbyists.  I don't know how I feel about that, either.  They know
>far more about their individual issues than elected people trying to
>master thousands of topics on very short notice.
>
>To the extent we underpay elected officials we insure that we will elect
>only crooks and millionaires.  Who else would take this job?
>
>Revolving door legislators who leave their jobs to join government,
>write legislation that favors their previous employer, and then leave
>government to rejoin their now enriched companies, doesn't seem like
>such a great idea, either.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>Philip wrote:
> > Rummy,
> >     The premise for all federal government intrusion into state affairs
> > (like education) is the acceptance of the state of federal funds.  If
>you
> > accept funding you have an obligation to obey.  I don't think this was
>ever
> > in the founder's intent.
> >
> >     Bill,
> >       Earlier you mentioned Term Limits.  I don't like them.  The
>Founders
> > debated it and decided the best way was for the people to have a choice.
>I
> > do believe that neither the Congress nor the Senate should have pensions
>or
> > post service medical benefits.  All pay and benefits should end when
>they
> > leave.  What do you get?  Term limits!
> >
> > Philip
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of
> > R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > Sent:	Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:47 AM
> > To:	rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject:	[Rhodes22-list] No child left behind.
> >
> > You are all going to love this little tid bit.
> >
> > _http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html_
> > (http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html)
> >
> >
> > Rummy
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