[Rhodes22-list] Politics: Pat Tillman's Brother Speaks
Bill Effros
bill at effros.com
Wed Oct 25 12:19:26 EDT 2006
Hank,
Most of the people fighting us right now are Iraqis.
Wait...This just in from our President:
"Americans have no intention of taking sides in a sectarian struggle or
standing in the crossfire between rival factions."
Hank,
We're going to cut and run. Not because I advocate it, because I
don't. But we're going to cut and run. No matter who is President or
who controls congress. We haven't the slightest idea of why we are
there, or what we are trying to do. More Americans have been killed in
Iraq since 9/11 than died in the United States on 9/11.
If the strategy is to keep Americans from being killed by radical
Islamists, it's backfiring.
Bill Effros
Hank wrote:
> Bill,
>
> We did not go to Iraq to fight extremist Islam. Extremist Islam, most of
> them non-iraqis, came to Iraq to fight us. They picked the fight, now
> what
> do we do? Run, because we got our nose bloodied? I sure hope not.
>
> Hank
>
> On 10/25/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hank,
>>
>> Neither of us has taken a poll of personnel who are currently on active
>> duty. For every returning soldier who supports your views, I can find
>> another who does not. Their opinions are entirely beside the point.
>>
>> Now we are in Iraq to fight extremist Islam? We have placed our
>> soldiers in the middle of a religious civil war. There are extreme
>> Islamists on both sides, and both sides are shooting at our kids when we
>> get in the way. What constitutes a "win"? Is it a "win" because
>> everyone we kill (including civilians) is an Islamist?
>>
>> Be very careful how you answer. There are more practicing Islamists in
>> the world today than there are practicing Christians. Do you really
>> think we have enough technology to be able to kill them all? If Iraq is
>> the beta test, this is a project that should be dropped, and the sooner
>> the better.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>> Hank wrote:
>> > Bill,
>> >
>> > Kevin Tillman is entitled to his opinion and I suspect a large part of
>> > it is
>> > due to his bitterness at his brother being killed by a friendly fire
>> > incident. However, if you took a poll of personnel who are
>> currently on
>> > active duty, the vast majority of them would say that they have good
>> > morale
>> > and that they feel we should be there. I know as I have many friends
>> > currently on active duty and I served 20+ years on active duty.
>> >
>> > Brad has hit the nail right on the head about this being the chosen
>> > battle
>> > ground against extremist Islam and if it wasn't there, then it
>> would be
>> > somewhere else. They're not going to stop until either they or us are
>> > dead.
>> > Which side of that equation do you want to be on?
>> >
>> > Hank
>> >
>> > On 10/25/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> After Pat's Birthday
>> >> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/200601019_after_pats_birthday/
>> >> Posted on Oct 19, 2006
>> >>
>> >> By Kevin Tillman
>> >>
>> >> Editor's note: Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat in
>> >> 2002, and they served together in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat was
>> killed
>> >> in Afghanistan on April 22, 2004. Kevin, who was discharged in 2005,
>> has
>> >> written a powerful, must-read document.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It is Pat's birthday on November 6, and elections are the day
>> after. It
>> >> gets me thinking about a conversation I had with Pat before we joined
>> >> the military. He spoke about the risks with signing the papers. How
>> >> once we committed, we were at the mercy of the American leadership
>> and
>> >> the American people. How we could be thrown in a direction not of
>> our
>> >> volition. How fighting as a soldier would leave us without a voice…
>> >> until we got out.
>> >>
>> >> Much has happened since we handed over our voice:
>> >>
>> >> Somehow we were sent to invade a nation because it was a direct
>> threat
>> >> to the American people, or to the world, or harbored terrorists,
>> or was
>> >> involved in the September 11 attacks, or received weapons-grade
>> uranium
>> >> from Niger, or had mobile weapons labs, or WMD, or had a need to be
>> >> liberated, or we needed to establish a democracy, or stop an
>> insurgency,
>> >> or stop a civil war we created that can't be called a civil war even
>> >> though it is. Something like that.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it
>> is
>> >> not and condemns everything that it is.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow our elected leaders were subverting international law and
>> >> humanity by setting up secret prisons around the world, secretly
>> >> kidnapping people, secretly holding them indefinitely, secretly not
>> >> charging them with anything, secretly torturing them. Somehow that
>> >> overt policy of torture became the fault of a few "bad apples" in the
>> >> military.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow back at home, support for the soldiers meant having a
>> >> five-year-old kindergartener scribble a picture with crayons and send
>> it
>> >> overseas, or slapping stickers on cars, or lobbying Congress for an
>> >> extra pad in a helmet. It's interesting that a soldier on his
>> third or
>> >> fourth tour should care about a drawing from a five-year-old; or a
>> faded
>> >> sticker on a car as his friends die around him; or an extra pad in a
>> >> helmet, as if it will protect him when an IED throws his vehicle 50
>> feet
>> >> into the air as his body comes apart and his skin melts to the seat.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow the more soldiers that die, the more legitimate the illegal
>> >> invasion becomes.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people
>> >> and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the
>> courage,
>> >> virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are
>> >> allowed to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is
>> >> tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is
>> >> tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow suspension of Habeas Corpus is supposed to keep this country
>> >> safe.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow torture is tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow lying is tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow a narrative is more important than reality.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it
>> is
>> >> not and condemns everything that it is.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow the most reasonable, trusted and respected country in the
>> world
>> >> has become one of the most irrational, belligerent, feared, and
>> >> distrusted countries in the world.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow being politically informed, diligent, and skeptical has been
>> >> replaced by apathy through active ignorance.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow the same incompetent, narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous,
>> >> malicious criminals are still in charge of this country.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow this is tolerated.
>> >>
>> >> Somehow nobody is accountable for this.
>> >>
>> >> In a democracy, the policy of the leaders is the policy of the
>> people.
>> >> So don't be shocked when our grandkids bury much of this
>> generation as
>> >> traitors to the nation, to the world and to humanity. Most likely,
>> they
>> >> will come to know that "somehow" was nurtured by fear, insecurity and
>> >> indifference, leaving the country vulnerable to unchecked,
>> unchallenged
>> >> parasites.
>> >>
>> >> Luckily this country is still a democracy. People still have a
>> voice.
>> >> People still can take action. It can start after Pat's birthday.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hank, Brad, Herb--Quit listening to FOX.
>> >>
>> >> Bill Effros
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hank wrote:
>> >> > Ron,
>> >> >
>> >> > You're facts are wrong on this one. I did hear a fairly convincing
>> >> > argument
>> >> > that the military will continue to increase pressure to get out,
>> the
>> >> > loss of
>> >> > morale, casualties, and decrease in volunteer rate and
>> reenlistments
>> >> have
>> >> > already hurt.
>> >> >
>> >> > My newest employee just got back from Iraq and Morale is NOT down.
>> >> Our
>> >> > troops are ready and rarin' to go and if you talked to them, almost
>> >> > all of
>> >> > them will tell you that we need to be there. I know, I talk to
>> >> them on
>> >> a
>> >> > daily basis. Re-enlistments this year are up, not down. Quit
>> >> > listening to
>> >> > CNN.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hank
>> >> >
>> >> > On 10/24/06, Ronald Lipton <rlipton at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I explicitly said I was not offering new ideas. What is needed
>> is an
>> >> >> intelligent policy which considers options rationally, does not
>> >> depend
>> >> >> on blind ideology and recognizes errors and corrects them.
>> There is
>> >> >> indeed no magic bullet for our problems, but I have no faith in
>> the
>> >> >> course that has been set and a belief that our arrogance had made
>> >> >> the world a much more dangerous place for all of us.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think that you are twisting history - a policy if regime
>> change is
>> >> >> not the same as
>> >> >> invasion. Certainly approval by congress is not a stamp of
>> wisdom -
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> should have known enough to question the evidence for WMD - I won
>> >> >> several bets on the question. The question of North Korea is
>> >> different
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> more subtle - China clearly needs to play a role. The threat of
>> >> >> massive retaliation
>> >> >> does not warm the hearts of our South Korean allies. The Bush
>> policy
>> >> of
>> >> >> confrontation rather than engagement has not worked, but I
>> would be
>> >> >> hesitant to criticize them on that point since we are dealing
>> with a
>> >> >> country
>> >> >> that does not play by the rules.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What do we do in Iraq? It's too late for me to solve this one. I
>> >> did
>> >> >> hear a
>> >> >> fairly convincing argument that the military will continue to
>> >> increase
>> >> >> pressure to get out, the loss of morale, casualties, and
>> decrease in
>> >> >> volunteer
>> >> >> rate and reenlistments have already hurt. The retired generals
>> are
>> >> >> speaking
>> >> >> out now. My guess is that we will leave as soon as a minimally
>> >> stable
>> >> >> state
>> >> >> seems viable and hope for the best. Iraq will not turn into a
>> >> >> democratic
>> >> >> island in the mid-east that's pretty clear. Our best hope now is
>> that
>> >> it
>> >> >> does not become the major exporter of terrorists, the internal
>> supply
>> >> >> seems to be pretty good.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ron
>> >> >> On Oct 24, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Brad Haslett wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Common leftest screed (thank-you Bill) , I've read your post
>> twice
>> >> Ron
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > still can't find any new ideas.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > As to North Korea, I believe it was the "negotiations" and
>> >> appeasement
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the previous administration that got us into this mess. How
>> should
>> >> we
>> >> >> > respond? We have roughly 30,000 of our own troops in harms
>> way on
>> >> the
>> >> >> > border (been there since the 50's) plus several million South
>> >> Koreans.
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > North can lob 5000 conventional shells at once and we have to
>> >> figure
>> >> >> > out
>> >> >> > which one contains the nuke. Yes indeed, what a mess. Our best
>> >> hope
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > is help from China. More troops on the ground would only mean
>> more
>> >> >> > troops
>> >> >> > killed in the first day. We should think twice about allowing a
>> >> >> similar
>> >> >> > situation with another rouge nation developing again, hence our
>> >> >> > invasion of
>> >> >> > Iraq. After all, regime change was the official policy of the
>> >> Clinton
>> >> >> > administration. Let me repeat this one more time - the
>> >> authorization
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > invade Iraq was approved by the Congress. Of course some
>> will say
>> >> for
>> >> >> > political reasons they were duped, but they had access to the
>> same
>> >> >> > intel - politics as usual.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How many Iraqi citizens were killed by Saddam? A hell of a lot
>> >> more
>> >> >> > than
>> >> >> > by our invasion. How many more will be killed if we leave. John
>> >> Kerry
>> >> >> > estimated less than 300,000 in Vietnam. He was only off by 3
>> >> million.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What do you think we should do Ron, pull out and declare
>> victory?
>> >> >> > Well, if
>> >> >> > so, why quit at half-measures. Let's disband the TSA and
>> eliminate
>> >> >> > the long
>> >> >> > line at the airports. After all, we have no enemies from the
>> crazy
>> >> >> > fringe
>> >> >> > of the Islamic world, right? Let's kiss and make up with the
>> >> >> French so
>> >> >> > they'll come to our side and bravely fight, just as they are in
>> >> their
>> >> >> > own
>> >> >> > country right now. Ah yes, those wonderful allies we pissed off.
>> >> >> > Please
>> >> >> > remind me who we offended that weren't trading goods with
>> Saddam.
>> >> >> > Germany,
>> >> >> > nope! Russia, nope! China, silly question! I forget, help me
>> >> here,
>> >> >> > who
>> >> >> > are these allies again?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This war is ugly, they all are. We went for the right reasons.
>> >> What
>> >> >> > we are
>> >> >> > seeing now is not unlike Tet in Vietnam. We won that remember,
>> and
>> >> >> > then
>> >> >> > gave the enemy time to regroup at the peace table. Indeed,
>> history
>> >> >> > can be a
>> >> >> > bitch.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Brad
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 10/24/06, Ronald Lipton <rlipton at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> New idea? Better ideas?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - Did I think invading Iraq was a good idea? NO
>> >> >> >> Were there weapons of mass distruction - NO
>> >> >> >> Were there real terrorist bases - NO
>> >> >> >> Did we give any thought to the internal politics? NO
>> >> >> >> Did we alienate our allies by our arrogance? YES.
>> >> >> >> Have we crippled our volunteer forces by throwing
>> >> >> >> away lives in a worse than useless situation?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> How many soldiers have been killed? (~2900)
>> >> >> >> Maimed - many more
>> >> >> >> How many Iraqi civilians?
>> >> >> >> How many of their families blame the US and will take up
>> >> terrorism?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We have been weakened to the point that we can't
>> >> >> >> effectively respond to real threats from N. Korea.
>> >> >> >> God what a mess.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I don't see any real thought given to actions which gravely
>> >> >> >> affect the US and the rest of the world.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I don't want to see this country continue to be run by a group
>> >> >> >> of idiots and ideologues who seem to be completely disconnected
>> >> >> >> from reality. If soldiers are put in harms way there should
>> be a
>> >> >> >> good reason. I see nothing but negative consequences.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Do I have better Ideas? It's like asking someone pushed out
>> >> >> >> of a window - how to get back up there?
>> >> >> >> Is there any path out of this mess - you tell me, but I believe
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> this is the most disastrous administration in the history of
>> this
>> >> >> >> country. Nero probably did a worse job for Rome.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ron
>> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Brad Haslett wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Bob,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks for the post. There are letters like this quite often
>> on
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> > milblogs I frequent. Also, I have a co-worker with a Marine
>> son
>> >> in
>> >> >> >> > Iraq who
>> >> >> >> > forwards updates from time to time. This may be a SHOCK
>> to the
>> >> >> >> > lefties in
>> >> >> >> > the world but our military is all volunteer and for the most
>> >> part
>> >> >> >> very
>> >> >> >> > motivated. The reaction you got on the list was predictable
>> and
>> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> > unlike
>> >> >> >> > the reactions from the usual suspects anytime something that
>> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> >> > fit
>> >> >> >> > their perceptions gets published. They get the New York
>> times
>> >> >> >> version
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > reality everyday from someone who's never been out of the
>> Green
>> >> >> Zone
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > believe that, but gawd forbid they listen to the wisdom of a
>> >> common
>> >> >> >> > foot-soldier. No one likes this war, or any war for that
>> matter,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> > kid in the letter pretty much nailed it. We fight them there
>> >> >> now or
>> >> >> >> > here
>> >> >> >> > later. Did you see on the news this evening that youths are
>> >> >> burning
>> >> >> >> > buses
>> >> >> >> > in France? Nope? What kind of youths? Of course the French
>> >> can't
>> >> >> >> say
>> >> >> >> > it. Radical Islamists! Keep your head in the sand
>> folks. This
>> >> >> >> ain't
>> >> >> >> > goin'
>> >> >> >> > away anytime soon. We can argue about the methods or the
>> chosen
>> >> >> >> > battlefield
>> >> >> >> > but the war declared by them a long time ago. What was our
>> >> first
>> >> >> >> > reaction? Wear sweaters!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Here's what really pisses me off. Where are the new ideas?
>> >> All I
>> >> >> >> > hear this
>> >> >> >> > election cycle is let's tuck tail and run, then hope for the
>> >> best.
>> >> >> >> Is
>> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> > a strategy? Criticism and disagreement is one thing -
>> attempting
>> >> >> >> > dialogue
>> >> >> >> > with, or worse, ignoring enemies who want to cut your head
>> >> off is
>> >> >> >> > stupid. Oh
>> >> >> >> > I forget, cutting off heads is only for old time's sake,
>> until
>> >> they
>> >> >> >> > can get
>> >> >> >> > their WMD programs running again.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Brad
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On 10/23/06, Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Got this from my brother and wanted to pass it on.
>> >> >> >> >> Bob
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> This is from a co-worker at HP who's son left for Iraq
>> today.
>> >> This
>> >> >> >> >> comes
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> me directly from his Dad. I will be getting periodic updates
>> >> from
>> >> >> >> him
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> will forward. I will take the last name off so as to protect
>> >> his
>> >> >> >> >> privacy,
>> >> >> >> >> but forward on, because these brave troops need our
>> continued
>> >> >> >> support
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> prayers.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Bill
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Everyone,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Well after months and months of yakking about it the day is
>> >> >> finally
>> >> >> >> >> here…well almost here, just have to go to sleep tonight
>> (we'll
>> >> see
>> >> >> >> >> about
>> >> >> >> >> that) and it'll be here tomorrow. I'm sure pretty much
>> >> >> everyone is
>> >> >> >> >> wondering what I'm thinking right now, what are my feelings,
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> other stuff…I guess I'm going to be super-cool and spill it
>> for
>> >> >> >> you,
>> >> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> because I'm that awesome. :c)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I'm ready to get going, and I have been ready since my last
>> >> visit
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> Colorado…sitting around here this last week or so is just
>> >> awful,
>> >> >> >> >> waiting
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> >> never fun…gives you too much time to think, and a lot of the
>> >> time
>> >> >> >> >> thinking
>> >> >> >> >> gets you in trouble. I am ready to wage this war against
>> >> >> >> >> militant-Islam,
>> >> >> >> >> because it is something that absolutely has to be done.
>> Some
>> >> look
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> Iraq
>> >> >> >> >> and just see Saddam and WMD and that MY BOSS was wrong to go
>> in
>> >> >> >> there
>> >> >> >> >> (btw
>> >> >> >> >> we found enough WMD to kill everyone in Baghdad, but I guess
>> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> didn't
>> >> >> >> > hear
>> >> >> >> >> or read about that anywhere, ask me if you really want
>> >> details…oh,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> Saddam really was a horrible asshole…pardon my language to
>> both
>> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> grandmothers…), but it is well past that point…Iraq is the
>> line
>> >> in
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> > sand
>> >> >> >> >> between civilized nations and Islamic fascism, because
>> whether
>> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> want to
>> >> >> >> >> believe it or not, there are a large group of people out
>> there
>> >> who
>> >> >> >> >> want
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> >> and everyone else dead unless you convert to their way of
>> >> >> thinking.
>> >> >> >> >> The
>> >> >> >> >> great thing about Iraq is that all these idiots have decided
>> it
>> >> is
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> lot
>> >> >> >> >> easier to fight us there than it is to come to the United
>> >> States
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> fight
>> >> >> >> >> you…which I am fine with, because I'm going to be so
>> horribly
>> >> well
>> >> >> >> >> armed
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> armored that I welcome their best shot at destroying
>> >> everything I
>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> >> dedicated my life to defend.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> While I'm gone I encourage all of you to live it up for me…I
>> >> can't
>> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> >> it,
>> >> >> >> > so
>> >> >> >> >> you all should do it double for me…take those extra few days
>> >> >> off of
>> >> >> >> >> work,
>> >> >> >> >> take that trip, try for that double on your dirt bike, fish
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> run
>> >> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> >> more time, let your kid stay up that extra 15 minutes,
>> stay in
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> duck-blind 15 more minutes after you think the birds have
>> >> stopped
>> >> >> >> >> flying,
>> >> >> >> >> drink that extra drink…I think you get the idea…everyone has
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> area in
>> >> >> >> >> their life where they can indulge, so I encourage you all to
>> do
>> >> it
>> >> >> >> >> for me.
>> >> >> >> >> The only thing that I am worried about going into Iraq is
>> >> letting
>> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> guys
>> >> >> >> >> down, letting all of you down, and letting my country down;
>> >> and I
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> >> tell
>> >> >> >> >> you with all of my heart that it is NOT in my intention to
>> >> do any
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> those
>> >> >> >> >> things. I promise you all that I will be careful, but at
>> the
>> >> same
>> >> >> >> >> time I
>> >> >> >> >> promise that I will kick the ever-living CRAP out of anyone
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> presents
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> threat to me or you...they WILL die, and they'll do it
>> before
>> I
>> >> >> do.
>> >> >> >> >> This
>> >> >> >> >> war is the most important war that has been fought since
>> WW2,
>> >> >> >> easily,
>> >> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> >> more so. The things that we do tomorrow and in the next
>> five
>> >> >> years
>> >> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> >> shape the world as we know it for centuries to come…if we
>> leave
>> >> >> >> Iraq
>> >> >> >> > before
>> >> >> >> >> we win the fight then all of the western world is in danger,
>> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> remember
>> >> >> >> >> that…and I will elaborate on that fact in the future. So
>> happy
>> >> >> >> >> trails to
>> >> >> >> >> all of you, and I will frequently be in touch, just say a
>> 'lil
>> >> >> >> prayer
>> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> > me
>> >> >> >> >> and I'll do alright.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> God Bless and Love,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Matt
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Matthew
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> 1st Cavalry Division, Ft. Hood TX
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
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