[Rhodes22-list] Happy Birthday Brad

Thu Sep 28 15:58:15 EDT 2006

Happy Birthday Brad.

I've just given myself a great present!

Bill Effros

50?

Brad Haslett wrote:
> Bill,
>
> You are correct!  Charity starts at home.
>
> Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me!
>
> Brad
>
>
> On 9/28/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>
>> Slim,
>>
>> Don't let the bleeding heart conservatives get you down.  Their hearts
>> bleed only for themselves.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>> Slim wrote:
>> > Herb and Brad,
>> >
>> > Pah-lease don't hold Condy up as a good example!  You're going to have
>> to do
>> > better than that.  Her greatest skill is talking without saying
>> anything.
>> > As long as you're at it, why not hold up Louis Farrakhan's
>> success?  (more
>> > sarcasm)  How about Little Richard?  He never got a dime in royalties
>> for
>> > his songs.  I'll give you three guesses why.  How about Rubin
>> "Hurricane"
>> > Carter?  He sure got a fair shake.
>> >
>> > Slim
>> >
>> > On 9/28/06 12:59 PM, "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Why would that "stick in your craw"? That was 40 years ago? Yes, 
>> things
>> >> were bad. But they are MUCH better now. Yes, things still need to get
>> >> better, but they are MUCH better now. Yes, things were hard back 
>> then,
>> >> but Condy Rice is a product of THAT ERA.
>> >>
>> >> BTW, it wasn't "my accomplishments" I was talking about. It was the
>> >> pattern. I did better than my parents, because I chose to. My 
>> daughter
>> >> did better than I, because she chose to. I hope her kids do better 
>> than
>> >> she did (I also hope she starts HAVING them soon, I've trained my
>> oldest
>> >> granddaughter [3 years old] to say "Aunt Saundra, I want a WRIGHT
>> cousin
>> >> [my daughter's last name].)!
>> >>
>> >> It can be done. It's up the individual. They can choose to be a 
>> victim,
>> >> or they can choose to persevere.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>> salm at mn.rr.com 9/28/2006 12:03:32 pm >>>
>> >>>>>
>> >> Philip,
>> >>
>> >> You and Herb can certainly stand tall and be proud of your
>> >> accomplishments
>> >> in the face of adversity and challenge.  But when you say:
>> >>
>> >>>> we all have the opportunity to achieve the zenith of our abilities.
>> >>>>
>> >> something sticks in my craw.  Do you remember the civil rights 
>> struggle
>> >> in
>> >> the 60s?  Find a man from Selma, Ala and ask him if he thinks he was
>> >> given
>> >> ample opportunity then and if it's much better now.
>> >>
>> >> Slim
>> >>
>> >> On 9/28/06 8:22 AM, "3drecon at comcast.net" <3drecon at comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Herb,
>> >>>    I am sort of white, Mediteranian.  My parents divorced when I was
>> >>>
>> >> 10.  My
>> >>
>> >>> dad, though kind at heart, was not very responsible and did only 
>> what
>> >>>
>> >> the
>> >>
>> >>> court ordered him to do (never missed a payment) but there were no
>> >>>
>> >> fishing
>> >>
>> >>> trips, camping or anythnng like that.
>> >>>    My younger brother got his Eagle Scout without any family adult
>> >>> participation and is on schedule to retire at 52 years old (and I
>> >>>
>> >> mean
>> >>
>> >>> retire).  He, like I have always worked at least two jobs (unless I
>> >>>
>> >> was on
>> >>
>> >>> active duty; officers are generally prohibited from moonlighting).
>> >>>
>> >> We put
>> >>
>> >>> ourselves through college working the whole time.  I am in the Army
>> >>>
>> >> (again)
>> >>
>> >>> until I retire, then back to the civilian job.  I started out as a
>> >>>
>> >> PVT 1 in
>> >>
>> >>> the USMC and am now a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army.  None of this
>> >>>
>> >> would have
>> >>
>> >>> been possible without an education.  An education I paid for 
>> working,
>> >>>
>> >> student
>> >>
>> >>> loans (which I paid back in full) and Vietnam era GI Bill.  My
>> >>>
>> >> brother didn't
>> >>
>> >>> have the GI bill but still paid for his education himself.
>> >>>    My mother worked her ass off to keep us in clothes, under a roof
>> >>>
>> >> (her
>> >>
>> >>> house) and fed while finishing her B.S.
>> >>>    You make your own luck (when opportunity meets preparedness).
>> >>>
>> >> Make your
>> >>
>> >>> choices and play it out.
>> >>>    I am now helping my older son through the American Academy of
>> >>>
>> >> Dramatic Arts
>> >>
>> >>> (he has been offered a part in Pirates of the Carribean III).  My
>> >>>
>> >> younger son
>> >>
>> >>> is in private school.
>> >>>
>> >>> Philip
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> >>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Phillip,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Interesting the diversity of responses Slim's cynical viewpoint
>> >>>> generated.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My mother never finished high school. We were what most would call
>> >>>> "poor white trash", moving all over the country depending on who
>> >>>>
>> >> her
>> >>
>> >>>> husband was.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> She finally bought a house about 2 years after my wife and I got
>> >>>> married (12 years ago).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I did a bit better. Make about 90k a year, and even though i was an
>> >>>> adult before I bought my first house, it was before my kids were
>> >>>>
>> >> grown.
>> >>
>> >>>> My first married daughter and her fiancé bought their house 3
>> >>>>
>> >> months
>> >>
>> >>>> before their wedding.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm sure though, that it has little to do with working hard to
>> >>>>
>> >> improve
>> >>
>> >>>> your lot, and that of your children's, and more to do with 
>> living in
>> >>>>
>> >> a
>> >>
>> >>>> white man's world.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yeah, sure of it...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Herb Parsons
>> >>>>
>> >>>> S/V O'Jure
>> >>>> 1976 O'Day 25
>> >>>> Lake Grapevine, N TX
>> >>>>
>> >>>> S/V Reve de Papa
>> >>>> 1971 Coronado 35
>> >>>> Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> 3drecon at comcast.net 9/27/2006 4:09:30 pm >>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>> Slim,
>> >>>> Your comments are about as extremist as they come. Life isn't a
>> >>>> level playing field. We all have our hurdles and it is up to 
>> each of
>> >>>>
>> >> us
>> >>
>> >>>> to cross them. The promise of this country isn't equal outcome,
>> >>>>
>> >> rather,
>> >>
>> >>>> we all have the opportunity to achieve the zenith of our abilities.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Philip
>> >>>> Son of immigrants who speak foreign languages (and English) but did
>> >>>> alright anyway!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> >>>> From: Slim
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I'm sorry if anybody is offended by any more measure than I was at
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> the first
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> list that Elle posted. Truly, I'm a moderate, not an extremist,
>> >>>>>
>> >> but
>> >>
>> >>>>> extremist rhetoric from others brings out the beast in me.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That said, white man's guilt or not, you have to admit there are
>> >>>>>
>> >> two
>> >>
>> >>>>> Americas--one for white men and one for everybody else. Not 
>> exactly
>> >>>>>
>> >> a
>> >>
>> >>>> level
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> playing field.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Slim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 9/27/06 3:15 PM, "Brad Haslett" wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Slim,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I understand the reasoning behind some of your points. That
>> >>>>>>
>> >> doesn't
>> >>
>> >>>> mean I
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> agree with reasoning, or the points, I just understand the
>> >>>>>>
>> >> mindset.
>> >>
>> >>>> One area
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> where we most vehemently disagree is the white Anglo comment. I
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> didn't
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> choose to be born white, male, or the son of a frequently
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> unemployed
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> construction worker. That was fate, or whatever. I don't owe my
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> success,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> however modest, to pigmentation or the lack of it. In other
>> >>>>>>
>> >> words,
>> >>
>> >>>> if you
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> must suffer from white man's guilt, do so, but don't project it
>> >>>>>>
>> >> on
>> >>
>> >>>> me or
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> anyone else.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> As to the flag, I can wait to sing the National Anthem at the top
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> of my
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> lungs in Beijing in two years with my daughter singing along and
>> >>>>>>
>> >> my
>> >>
>> >>>> wife
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> holding her hand over her heart.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Brad
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 9/27/06, Slim wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Yeah, OK, I'd like to add a few too:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you continue to support the
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>> administration
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> no matter how many lies are crammed down our throats.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you go to church every Sunday
>> >>>>>>>
>> >> and
>> >>
>> >>>> pray for
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> the destruction of others in the name of God.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you think all languages except
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>> English
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> should be banned within our borders.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you're a white Anglo.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you think only TRUE AMERICANS
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>> adhere to
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>> list!!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 9/27/06 8:00 AM, "Hank" wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Great email, Elle. I'd only suugest one edit. Add "Remove your
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> hat" to
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> part about the National Anthem. That's always been a pet peeve
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> of
>> >>
>> >>>> mine
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> see folks at a ball game not take off their hat.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 9/27/06, L. Sailor wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Came across my email this AM. Makes one think about
>> >>>>>>>>> how those in the middle politically are being
>> >>>>>>>>> bullied by the ends of the spectrum.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> elle
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It is time to change from REDNECK humor to TRUE
>> >>>>>>>>> AMERICAN Humor! Only I don't see it as Humor, but the
>> >>>>>>>>> correct way to LIVE YOUR LIFE ! If you feel the same,
>> >>>>>>>>> pass this on to your True American friends. Ya'll
>> >>>>>>>>> know who ya' are...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: It never occurred to
>> >>>>>>>>> you to be offended by the phrase, "One nation, under
>> >>>>>>>>> God."
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never
>> >>>>>>>>> protested about seeing the 10 Commandments posted in
>> >>>>>>>>> public places.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You still say
>> >>>>>>>>> "Christmas" instead of "Winter Festival."
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You bow your head
>> >>>>>>>>> when someone
>> >>>>>>>>> prays.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You stand and place
>> >>>>>>>>> your hand over your heart when they play the National
>> >>>>>>>>> Anthem.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You treat Viet Nam
>> >>>>>>>>> vets with great respect, and alw ays have.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never burned
>> >>>>>>>>> an American flag.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You know what you
>> >>>>>>>>> believe and you aren't afraid to say so, no matter
>> >>>>>>>>> who is listening.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You respect your
>> >>>>>>>>> elders and expect your kids to do the same.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You'd give your last
>> >>>>>>>>> dollar to a friend.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> If you got this email from me, it is because I believe
>> >>>>>>>>> that you, like me, have just enough TRUE AMERICAN in
>> >>>>>>>>> you to have the same beliefs as those talked about in
>> >>>>>>>>> this email. This is Excellent, No Matter what you
>> >>>>>>>>> deem fit to call it. It is our Country, It is our way
>> >>>>>>>>> of LIFE, and I love it.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> God Bless the U S A ! Git 'er done!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
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