[Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
TN Rhodey
tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 6 14:50:22 EDT 2007
Brad, Hopefully she doesn't stand a chance but I must admit she has about s
good a chance as anyone at this point. - Wally
>From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 14:29:49 -0600
>
>Wally,
>
>We have reached a point of agreement. Hillary is a two-faced bitch!
>
>Brad
>
>On 4/5/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > I didn't have a question and I would never ask you to do my research. I
> > used
> > to read your links but quit years ago when I found they often didn't
>even
> > support what you were saying. I guess if your sole point is/was Hilary
>is
> > a
> > two faced bitch and Clinton fired all 93 and other presidents fired 80
>or
> > so
> > then you are correct. You are incorrect in stating that these firings
>were
> > usually done at end of term. My point is Clinton did not start mass
> > firings.
> >
> > One big difference now....Due to the Patriot Act Bush can replace these
> > guys
> > without approval. As for the lie? It is fact that the administration
> > stated
> > they were fired for poor performance and not for political reasons. That
> > sir
> > WAS a lie. What part of any of the above is not true?
> >
> > I still think they would have been much better off fessing up from the
>get
> > go. Just like I felt Clinton would have been better off saying "I did
>have
> > sex with that women....and others too". So as I have said in every post
>on
> > this topic....this problem was more a matter of bad timing (half way
> > through
> > second term), and the BS response afterwards. Add an administration with
>a
> > credibilty problem, toss in the Patriot Act loop-hole and things get a
> > little sticky.
> >
> > Regarding my sources....What I got off CNN was copies of actual emails
>and
> > PDFs of court transcript. They came up first but who cares? Regardless
>of
> > what web site one uses for the source of court docs the actual text
>should
> > be the same. I am not sure of your point in mentioning FOX verses CNN.
>Are
> > you disputing that these are actual transcipts? Facts, facts,
>facts....not
> > opinion.
> >
> > I agreed this should have been much ado about nothing and if fact said
>so.
> > I
> > am still not sure you realize this. For the most part this mess was
> > created
> > in the typical bumbling fashion we have come to expect from current
> > administration.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:51:26 -0600
> > >
> > >Wally,
> > >
> > >Sorry, my ADHD is kicking in again. Exactly what was your question? I
> > >believe it had something to do with "don't all incoming Presidents fire
> > all
> > >the Federal Attorneys? And my answer was, No. Only Bill Clinton did
> > that
> > >in mass. All the others replaced them when their terms expired with
> > >occasional mid term firings. Use your skills on the DOJ website to
> > confirm
> > >that. My only reason for mentioning the Clinton firings is to point
>out
> > >Hillary's amnesia. ALL Federal Attorney appointments are political so
>it
> > >is
> > >only reasonable to assume that their having been fired is also
>political
> > to
> > >whatever degree. I am not wrong about the mass firings (in the last
> > forty
> > >years or so) and I refuse to do your homework. As to lying - could you
>be
> > a
> > >bit more specific? Using the word "performance" as a smoke screen for
> > >having not followed the POTUS's desires is not lying. Not necessarily
> > good
> > >PR either, but not lying. Reading something on CNN is not fact. You
>are
> > >welcome to throw out FOX News. There, we're even. The fact that you
>read
> > >testimony and came up with an opinion is just that, your opinion. As I
> > said
> > >earlier this morning, investigate the living shit out of this by all
> > means.
> > >I seriously doubt they'll find a smoking gun, but if they do, smoke'm
> > out.
> > >The gist of the complaints the White House had against those fired was
> > >their
> > >pursuit (or lack of) of voter fraud and illegal immigration with one
> > >exception - the one from Little Rock was shit-canned to make way for
> > >someone else as a political favor. Welcome to the real world. If it
> > turns
> > >out that they were trying to cover for political corruption, take it
>all
> > >the
> > >way to impeachment. Frankly, I think we're killing a lot of trees over
> > >nothing. Gonzales may be rendered ineffective for a while or perhaps
> > >permanently. Wasn't that the reason behind this non-scandal from the
> > >get-go?
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >On 4/5/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Brad, And you say you don't have a pair of rose colored
>glasses....As
> > > > usual
> > > > you never answered my question. I freely admitted I hadn't been
> > >following
> > > > this closely. This is not a matter of seeing what you or I want to
> > see.
> > >So
> > > > I
> > > > did a quick check and the facts are simple....
> > > >
> > > > First you are wrong about mass AG firings starting will Clinton. A
> > quick
> > > > check does confirm that new Presidents have been firing AGs going
>back
> > >to
> > > > at
> > > > least Reagan. It looks like Carter and good old Ike had some firings
> > as
> > > > well
> > > > but nothing like the mass numbers since Reagan. Nixon had his own
> > issues
> > > > with AGs. Since Reagan it has been routine for 80 or more AGs to be
> > > > dismissed with-in the first 2 years of President's term. Poor old
> > > > Bill....people just love to blame him for everything. LOL
> > > >
> > > > The issue seems to be more a matter of timing, motivation, and the
> > > > administration's BS response to the public. The reasons cited for
> > > > dismissals
> > > > was "poor performance". A quick review of the facts shows this was
>not
> > > > true.
> > > > Internal Emails and pdfs of recent testimony are all on line. It is
> > >also
> > > > clear these firings were discussed with Gonzales prior to Gonzales
> > > > becoming
> > > > AG. It is also clear that the AG provided misleading information to
> > the
> > > > Senate. It is also clear the the administration wanted to fire the
>AG
> > >over
> > > > Libby trial.
> > > >
> > > > This might have been much ado about nothing if they didn't initially
> > >fire
> > > > the AGs and then follow up with annouincement that this was do to
>poor
> > > > performance. Of course the fired AGs complained. Wouldn't you? Being
> > >fired
> > > > is bad enough but go ahead and tell the world the real reason not a
> > lie.
> > > > This administration has a history of providing bad information. Why
> > our
> > > > President's ratings aren't even lower is beyond me.
> > > >
> > > > Google is your friend. My sources.. Justive Department site, WIKI,
>and
> > > > CNN.
> > > > Note CNN and WIKI provided the link to actual emails and PDFs of
> > > > testimony.
> > > > I did not read any editorials....I want facts not opinions.
> > > >
> > > > No spin Brad. Kind of like Dragnet...nothing but the facts. If I
>have
> > >the
> > > > facts wrong set me straight.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:37:30 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >Wally,
> > > > >
> > > > >You see what you want to see. This is much to do about nothing!
>Do
> > >your
> > > > >homework and prove me wrong. The facts are what they are, your
>spin
> > >sir.
> > > > >
> > > > >Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What?.....This editorial really doesn't address the coment in my
> > > > > > email.....I
> > > > > > will do some checking but I think you are wrong about this
> > starting
> > > > with
> > > > > > Clinton. I don't think anyone is saying that Clinto did not fire
> > >AGs.
> > > > I
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > don't think it started with the Clinton's. You post doesn't shed
> > any
> > > > >light
> > > > > > in either direction. - Wally
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:08:47 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Wally,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >This is a 'tempest in a teapot', something, anything, to run
> > > > >interference
> > > > > > >during the last two years of a lame duck Presidency. Here is
>an
> > > > > > editorial
> > > > > > >from the WSJ on the subject.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >---------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >*The Hubbell Standard*
> > > > > > >Hillary Clinton knows all about sacking U.S. Attorneys.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >*Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:01 a.m.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Congressional Democrats are in full cry over the news this week
> > >that
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >Administration's decision to fire eight U.S. Attorneys
>originated
> > > > > > >from--gasp--the White House. Senator Hillary Clinton joined the
> > fun
> > > > > > >yesterday, blaming President Bush for "the politicization of
>our
> > > > > > >prosecutorial system." Oh, my.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >As it happens, Mrs. Clinton is just the Senator to walk point
>on
> > >this
> > > > > > issue
> > > > > > >of dismissing U.S. attorneys because she has direct personal
> > > > >experience.
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > >any Congressional probe of the matter, we'd suggest she call
> > >herself
> > > > as
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >first witness--and bring along Webster Hubbell as her chief
> > >counsel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >As everyone once knew but has tried to forget, Mr. Hubbell was
>a
> > > > former
> > > > > > >partner of Mrs. Clinton at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock who
> > >later
> > > > > > went
> > > > > > >to jail for mail fraud and tax evasion. He was also Bill and
> > >Hillary
> > > > > > >Clinton's choice as Associate Attorney General in the Justice
> > > > >Department
> > > > > > >when Janet Reno, his nominal superior, simultaneously fired all
> > 93
> > > > U.S.
> > > > > > >Attorneys in March 1993. Ms. Reno--or Mr. Hubbell--gave them 10
> > >days
> > > > to
> > > > > > >move
> > > > > > >out of their offices.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >At the time, President Clinton presented the move as something
> > > > >perfectly
> > > > > > >ordinary: "All those people are routinely replaced," he told
> > > > reporters,
> > > > > > >"and
> > > > > > >I have not done anything differently." In fact, the dismissals
> > were
> > > > > > >unprecedented: Previous Presidents, including Ronald Reagan and
> > >Jimmy
> > > > > > >Carter, had both retained holdovers from the previous
> > >Administration
> > > > >and
> > > > > > >only replaced them gradually as their tenures expired. This
> > allowed
> > > > > > >continuity of leadership within the U.S. Attorney offices
>during
> > >the
> > > > > > >transition.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Equally extraordinary were the politics at play in the firings.
> > At
> > > > the
> > > > > > >time,
> > > > > > >Jay Stephens, then U.S. Attorney in the District of Columbia,
>was
> > > > > > >investigating then Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski,
>and
> > >was
> > > > > > >"within
> > > > > > >30 days" of making a decision on an indictment. Mr.
>Rostenkowski,
> > >who
> > > > >was
> > > > > > >shepherding the Clinton's economic program through Congress,
> > > > eventually
> > > > > > >went
> > > > > > >to jail on mail fraud charges and was later pardoned by Mr.
> > >Clinton.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Also at the time, allegations concerning some of the Clintons'
> > > > >Whitewater
> > > > > > >dealings were coming to a head. By dismissing all 93 U.S.
> > Attorneys
> > > > at
> > > > > > >once,
> > > > > > >the Clintons conveniently cleared the decks to appoint "Friend
>of
> > > > Bill"
> > > > > > >Paula Casey as the U.S. Attorney for Little Rock. Ms. Casey
>never
> > >did
> > > > > > bring
> > > > > > >any big Whitewater indictments, and she rejected information
>from
> > > > >another
> > > > > > >FOB, David Hale, on the business practices of the Arkansas
>elite
> > > > > > including
> > > > > > >Mr. Clinton. When it comes to "politicizing" Justice, in short,
> > the
> > > > >Bush
> > > > > > >White House is full of amateurs compared to the Clintons.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And it may be this very amateurism that explains how the
> > current
> > > > > > >Administration has managed to turn this routine issue of
> > replacing
> > > > > > >Presidential appointees into a political fiasco. There was
> > nothing
> > > > >wrong
> > > > > > >with replacing the eight Attorneys, all of whom serve at the
> > > > >President's
> > > > > > >pleasure. Prosecutors deserve supervision like any other
> > executive
> > > > >branch
> > > > > > >appointees.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >The supposed scandal this week is that Mr. Bush had been
>informed
> > > > last
> > > > > > fall
> > > > > > >that some U.S. Attorneys had been less than vigorous in
>pursuing
> > > > > > >voter-fraud
> > > > > > >cases and that the President had made the point to Attorney
> > General
> > > > > > Alberto
> > > > > > >Gonzales. Voter fraud strikes at the heart of democratic
> > > > institutions,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >it was entirely appropriate for Mr. Bush--or any President--to
> > >insist
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > >his appointees act energetically against it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Take sacked U.S. Attorney John McKay from Washington state. In
> > >2004,
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >Governor's race was decided in favor of Democrat Christine
> > Gregoire
> > > > by
> > > > > > 129
> > > > > > >votes on a third recount. As the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and
> > >other
> > > > > > media
> > > > > > >outlets reported, some of the "voters" were deceased, others
>were
> > > > > > >registered
> > > > > > >in storage-rental facilities, and still others were convicted
> > >felons.
> > > > > > More
> > > > > > >than 100 ballots were "discovered" in a Seattle warehouse. None
> > of
> > > > this
> > > > > > >constitutes proof that the election was stolen. But it should
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > > >enough to prompt Mr. McKay, a Democrat, to investigate,
>something
> > >he
> > > > > > >declined to do, apparently on grounds that he had better things
> > to
> > > > do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >In New Mexico, another state in which recent elections have
>been
> > > > >decided
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > >razor thin margins, U.S. Attorney David Iglesias did establish
>a
> > > > voter
> > > > > > >fraud
> > > > > > >task force in 2004. But it lasted all of 10 weeks before
>closing
> > >its
> > > > > > doors,
> > > > > > >despite evidence of irregularities by the likes of the
> > Association
> > >of
> > > > > > >Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn. As our John
> > Fund
> > > > > > reported
> > > > > > >at the time, Acorn's director Matt Henderson refused to answer
> > > > >questions
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >court about whether his group had illegally made copies of
>voter
> > > > > > >registration cards in the run-up to the 2004 election.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As for some of the other fired Attorneys, at least one of
>their
> > > > > > >dismissals
> > > > > > >seemed to owe to differences with the Administration about the
> > >death
> > > > > > >penalty, another to questions about the Attorney's managerial
> > >skills.
> > > > >Not
> > > > > > >surprisingly, the dismissed Attorneys are insisting their
> > >dismissals
> > > > >were
> > > > > > >unfair, and perhaps in some cases they were. It would not be
>the
> > > > first
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > >in history that a dismissed employee did not take kindly to his
> > > > firing,
> > > > > > nor
> > > > > > >would it be the first in which an employer sacked the wrong
> > person.
> > > > No
> > > > > > >question, the Justice Department and White House have botched
>the
> > > > > > handling
> > > > > > >of this issue from start to finish. But what we don't have here
> > is
> > > > any
> > > > > > >serious evidence that the Administration has acted improperly
>or
> > to
> > > > > > protect
> > > > > > >some of its friends. If Democrats want to understand what a
>real
> > > > abuse
> > > > >of
> > > > > > >power looks like, they can always ask the junior Senator from
>New
> > > > York.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Of course the AGs serve at the President's descrection
>however
> > I
> > > > >think
> > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > might be wrong about the firings/replacement starting with
> > > > Clinton.
> > > > >I
> > > > > > > > thought the AG firings started at least as far back as
>Reagan
> > >and
> > > > >was
> > > > > > >then
> > > > > > > > followed by Bush and Clinton. I thought W's issues have more
> > to
> > >do
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > timing....if he would of done this in the first year or so
>it
> > > > would
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > merely followed precedent ...by waiting he left the door
>open
> > to
> > > > > > > > criticism.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >
> > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:26:04 -0600
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Wally,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >AG's serve at the President's discretion. Clinton
>wholesale
> > > > > > replacing
> > > > > > > > ALL
> > > > > > > > >of them at once was a first. The press at the time barely
> > > > mentioned
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > >Bush
> > > > > > > > >replaced 8 out of almost 100. Big deal. This is a huge
> > > > non-story
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >ranks right up there with the one about whats-her-name
>dying,
> > >you
> > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >one, that blonde chick with the big hooters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I've been tied down with airplane hangar issues and taxes
>but
> > > > plan
> > > > >to
> > > > > > >get
> > > > > > > > >on
> > > > > > > > >the lake soon. I haven't bothered to look and see if the
> > front
> > > > >that
> > > > > > > > passed
> > > > > > > > >here last night has made it past you, but it is chilly this
> > > > >morning.
> > > > > > >At
> > > > > > > > >least there's some wind.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The sailing here has been great the last few days!!! I
> > have
> > > > >been
> > > > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > > > NOT
> > > > > > > > > > to follow the AG firings but doesn't every President do
> > the
> > > > same
> > > > > > >thing
> > > > > > > > > > Clinton did? I thought this was pretty standard when a
>new
> > > > pres
> > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > in.....this may be a matter of bad timing? Wally
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 07:29:24 -0600
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Rummy,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Speaking of amnesia, last Sunday we had George
> > >Stephanopoulos
> > > > >on
> > > > > > >his
> > > > > > > > >ABC
> > > > > > > > > > >news show discussing the firing of eight Attorney
> > Generals,
> > >a
> > > > > > > > non-event
> > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > >there ever was one, and little Georgie keeps a straight
> > >face
> > > > > > >through
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > >whole thing. What a fine piece of acting. Did George
> > >share
> > > > >his
> > > > > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > > > >as spokesperson for the Clinton administration
>explaining
> > >the
> > > > > > >firing
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > >all,
> > > > > > > > > > >every single friggin' AG in the US, including the one
>in
> > > > Little
> > > > > > >Rock
> > > > > > > > > > >investigating Whitewater? No, he continued on, sure
>that
> > > > most
> > > > >of
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > >country is too stupid to know or care. He was right.
>Want
> > >to
> > > > >know
> > > > > > >how
> > > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > >press coverage that got when it happened? About 20
> > seconds
> > > > on
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > network.
> > > > > > > > > > >Fair and balanced?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >On 4/4/07, R22RumRunner at aol.com <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Breaking News
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists Study Memory Loss Among Politicians
> > > > > > > > > > > > Near-amnesia Reaching Epidemic Proportions,
> > Experts Say
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > An "unprecedented epidemic of memory loss" is
> > > > > > > > afflicting America's
> > > > > > > > > > > > politicians, making it virtually impossible for them
> > to
> > > > > > >remember
> > > > > > > > >key
> > > > > > > > > > > > phone
> > > > > > > > > > > > conversations, meetings, and memos, a spokesman for
> > the
> > > > > > world's
> > > > > > > > > > leading
> > > > > > > > > > > > brain
> > > > > > > > > > > > scientists said today.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The spokesman, Dr. Hiroshi Kyosuke of the
>University
> > of
> > > > > > Tokyo,
> > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > >one
> > > > > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > > > over four hundred eminent brain scientists who have
> > > > gathered
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >Oslo,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Norway
> > > > > > > > > > > > this week for a high-level research conference to
> > > > probe the
> > > > > > > > recent
> > > > > > > > > > > > phenomenon
> > > > > > > > > > > > of memory loss that has plagued the nation's
> > >politicians.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "The question at hand is this: why are politicians
>so
> > > > good
> > > > >at
> > > > > > > > > > >remembering
> > > > > > > > > > > > contributors' names and phone numbers but so bad at
> > > > > > remembering
> > > > > > > > > > > > everything else?
> > > > > > > > > > > > " Dr. Kyosuke said.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Over the course of the conference, brain scientists
> > >have
> > > > > > > > presented
> > > > > > > > > > > > research
> > > > > > > > > > > > papers on a variety of subjects related to memory
> > loss,
> > > > >such
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > former
> > > > > > > > > > > > New
> > > > > > > > > > > > York mayor Rudolph Giuliani's inability to remember
>a
> > > > > > briefing
> > > > > > >he
> > > > > > > > > > > > received
> > > > > > > > > > > > about former police commissioner Bernard Kerik's
> > >possible
> > > > > > ties
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > > > organized
> > > > > > > > > > > > crime.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "That seems like the sort of thing that a normal
>human
> > > > > > > > brain would
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty remembering," Dr. Kyosuke said. "What
> > we are
> > > > > > >learning
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > >this
> > > > > > > > > > > > conference is that when it comes to politicians'
> > >brains,
> > > > we
> > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > >much
> > > > > > > > > > > > more to
> > > > > > > > > > > > learn."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, a full day of the conference was devoted
> > to
> > >a
> > > > > > paper
> > > > > > > > > > >entitled,
> > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > > The Neuroscience of Scooter Libby," followed by a
> > >keynote
> > > > > > >address
> > > > > > > > > > given
> > > > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > While many attendees considered Mr. Gonzales'
>speech
> > a
> > > > > > >highpoint
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > conference, the Attorney General offered a different
> > > > > > assessment:
> > > > > > > > "I
> > > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > recollection of it."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, President Bush said he would devote the
> > > > >remainder
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > >term
> > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > fighting global warming, adding, "April Fools!"
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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