[Rhodes22-list] Price of Gas or Re: More on GPS

Arthur H. Czerwonky czerwonky at earthlink.net
Mon Apr 9 10:33:47 EDT 2007


How did this stay on a GPS thread?  Ed should know better than this...

-----Original Message-----
>From: TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Apr 9, 2007 8:53 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] More on GPS
>
>So we raise the price a gas to $4 from $3...who gets the extra dollar? - 
>Wally
>
>
>>From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] More on GPS
>>Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 10:56:29 -0500
>>
>>Wally,
>>
>>The good (well kinda good) news is that the recent Supreme Court decision
>>that allows the EPA to regulate CO2 emissions means a whole new wave of
>>lawsuits is coming from the environmentalists.  Perhaps the unintended
>>consequences is that nuclear starts to look really, really, good.  I think
>>the science behind global warming is dubious, the press is only presenting
>>the worst side of the issue, and the world community wants to punish the US
>>economically.  Since the UN, EU, NATO, and other multi-national
>>organizations can't seem to police anything else, what makes people think
>>they can police CO2 emissions?  If global warming is what it takes to
>>convince the US that we need to lower our dependence on foreign oil, I'll
>>start preaching global warming even though I think the whole thing is a
>>crock of shit.  You want less carbon emissions - tax them!  Make the CAFE
>>standard 40mpg in ten years (we could do that in one year but it would kill
>>Detroit - already on life support).  Make gasoline cost a minimum of $4 per
>>gallon (we've been at $3 per gallon and it didn't kill the economy).  We
>>hear all the politicians from both sides mouth about solutions to global
>>warming, but no one has the guts to level with the population about what 
>>the
>>personal costs in money and lifestyle will be as a result.  Get some 'nads'
>>Washington!  Let's Roll!
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>On 4/8/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > John, Interesting read...How long was the system "down". The article
>> > didn't
>> > seem to mention if it was just a few minutes or hours. I was just
>> > wondering???
>> >
>> > Brad, Every now and then we agree! The Sun!....You know some say it is 
>>due
>> > to variations in the wobble of the spinning earth. These same wobbles 
>>are
>> > also thought by many to have caused various heating and cooling cycles
>> > over
>> > the earth's history. Maybe increase in population in India and China are
>> > the
>> > cause?
>> >
>> > Slight variations in angle can make a difference. We all remember
>> > lightning
>> > fires with magnifying glass when we were kids right?....Get the angle 
>>just
>> > right and the glass would burn your brothers arm or small insect very
>> > quickly. Change the angle and nothing. That glass didn't work to well on
>> > cloudy days though....so maybe air pollution would reduce global warming
>> > because it can create a nice shade? :-)
>> >
>> > I heard the problem is caused by trrapped gases creating greenhouse
>> > effect.
>> > So maybe if we had a bigger hole in the ozone these bad gasses would not
>> > be
>> > trapped anymore...just kidding about all this. :-) Heck I don't know who
>> > to
>> > believe. We do need to find some clean energy and quit fouling our nest.
>> > If
>> > our land, air and water are clean we and our food chain will be ok.
>> >
>> > Wally
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] More on GPS
>> > >Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:59:58 -0500
>> > >
>> > >John,
>> > >
>> > >Interesting article!  In the early 90's I flew the polar route from
>> > >Anchorage, AK to Prestwick, Scotland and then on to London about once 
>>or
>> > so
>> > >a month.  I never made it to 90 North (the Northern most route) but 
>>flew
>> > >the
>> > >85N route several times.  Twice, the sun flares were so bad that our HF
>> > >radios didn't work.  We flew radio silent for 9 hours from Point 
>>Barrow,
>> > AK
>> > >to coast in at Scotland with the exception of a VHF check-in at Alert 
>>and
>> > >Thule.  We had inertial nav so navigation wasn't an issue.  The whiskey
>> > >compass would just spin.  Now here's a question, isn't it possible that
>> > >'global warming' is a function of the sun and not so much mankind?
>> > >
>> > >Brad
>> > >
>> > >On 4/7/07, John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Even though technology is my business (or maybe because of it), I've
>> > > > learned not to become too dependent on it.  It's wonderful stuff...
>> > > > while it works.  Regarding GPS specifically, you may want to read
>> > > > this article on the effect solar activity is having on our GPS
>> > > > system.  Especially as we approach a solar maximum in 2011.
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/04/05/gps.solar.ap/index.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers!
>> > > > John Lock
>> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > > > s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>> > > > Lake Sinclair, GA
>> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >What is easy and reliable in virtually all  boating
>> > > > >circumstances is GPS - it will tell you where you are and how to 
>>get
>> > > > >to  where you want
>> > > > >to go.  Virtually all our navigation, apart from piloting in
>> > >constrained
>> > > > and
>> > > > >familiar waterways (e.g. approaches to our marina),  is  done with
>> > >GPS.
>> > > >
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