[Rhodes22-list] Don Imus

Sun Apr 15 18:47:25 EDT 2007

Thanks Elle, here's another gallon of gasoline.  Brad

http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/341037,CST-EDT-steyn15.article

On 4/15/07, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Three columns in the Washington Post Outlook section
> today provide interesting reading...
>
> One by Joe R. Hicks:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302089.html
>
> By Johnetta Rose Barras:
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302054.html
>
> and karen Henretty
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041301856.html
>
> (these are all linked from the Hicks page.
>
> They'll either add enlightenment or fuel to this
> discussion.
>
> elle
>
>
> --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
>
> > By going after Imus, all Al Sharpton and Jessie
> > Jackson did was cause
> > people to have to choose sides.  They are took an
> > ignorant, insignificant
> > comment made by a foolish white shock jock and
> > turned it into fighting
> > words. How can a white person defend what Imus said?
> >  He can't!  But
> > after all of the trouble Sharpton and Jackson
> > whipped up, he won't risk
> > commenting.  But now there is a sense of need to
> > circle the wagons and
> > fight the battle those two so-called Reverends have
> > started.   This is
> > how Jackson and Sharpton justify their own
> > existence....cause a frenzy,
> > then publicly calm the storm and/or mediate to make
> > it appear as Blacks
> > have won another battle.  The only Blacks winning
> > are those two by lining
> > their pockets from the false support they stir up in
> > the Black
> > community.  If a tree falls in the woods, does it
> > make a noise? No, and
> > nobody profits from it either.  Jackson and Sharpton
> > do not jump onto
> > bandwagons...they ARE the bandwagons.
> >
> > Jason Whitlock may be playing to a white audience,
> > but his argument makes
> > a lot more sense than Al Sharpton's.  Al and Jessie
> > trump this, and any
> > other issue they can, up into a national media witch
> > hunt for their own
> > gain and fame.  They make their money by claiming to
> > be helping the Black
> > community and Black causes and empowering Blacks but
> > they do so by
> > putting them into the roles of victims.  They take
> > their pride and self
> > worth and turn it into anger.    There is no
> > possible positive outcome
> > from the trouble Al Sharpton started....unless you
> > consider Don Imus
> > getting fired a plus. What about the female
> > basketball players?  Dom Imus
> > didn't steal their thunder--Al Sharpton did!
> > Jason Whitlock makes
> > much more sense. Regardless of who is too young to
> > not remember the civil
> > right movement and marches of the sixties, it makes
> > alot more sense to
> > ignor what someone else says about you.  When it
> > comes right down to it,
> > what Imus said doesn't matter and these female
> > basketball players
> > shouldn't let Imus define who they are.  They went
> > from educated,
> > championship contenders to "nappy headed hos" not
> > because Imus said it,
> > but because Al Sharpton turned them into victims.
> > Al Sharpton and Jessis
> > Jackson are racists and do more to fuel racism and
> > discrimination than
> > they do to solve these problems.
> >
> > Todd T
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Joseph Hadzima"
> >   To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> >   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Don Imus
> >   Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >   Regarding the double standard ...
> >
> >   yes and no!
> >
> >   THESE specific women basketball team members were
> > singled
> >   out. There is no information on what music these
> > women
> >   like. So we can't say they deserve to be called
> > anything.
> >   In fact THEY were offended, the rest of the noise
> > (e.g.
> >   Rev. Jackson, et al) just wanted to hop on to the
> > band
> >   wagon, and be heard (after the Imus was fired,
> > Jackson
> >   still wants to hold his march to CBS).
> >
> >   I also believe there is a tad more to the story ..
> > the
> >   conversation (not just the single sentence from
> > Imus) said
> >   things like the TN team were "cute", and other
> > remarks
> >   which were unflatering to the NJ team. Those
> > remarks I'm
> >   sure did even more to hurt their feelings.
> >
> >   It was NOT a GENERAL remark, it was directed to a
> > specific
> >   team. When the MC at a MTV Spring Break show
> > welcomes the
> >   "bitches" to Spring Break Mexico, they are not
> > specifically
> >   refering to "all the girls from "WhatsAmatter U",
> > but any
> >   in the croud that wish to identify themselfs with
> > the
> >   remark. No one is up in arms (many of these women
> > are not
> >   black, and neither is the MC of the show - so it's
> > not just
> >   the Black RAP community that is at fault).
> >
> >   Anyone remember when it was totally un cool to
> > refer to
> >   females over 16 as girls? they were either women,
> > or young
> >   women, sometimes a male could get away with
> > calling a goup
> >   "ladies" if the average age was over 40 ... maybe.
> > Where
> >   is NOW now? Are they okay with this?
> >
> >   As for the true part of the double standard. The
> > irony is
> >   that the black community fought very hard for
> > total
> >   integration many years ago, and now that some
> > white folk
> >   embrace some of the same cultural atributes (think
> > America
> >   the melting pot) in the burbs it is some how
> > wrong.
> >
> >   So IMHO, I believe some of this outrage is a good
> > thing,
> >   even Rev. Sharpton said there needs to be more
> > outrage
> >   towards some RAP and commics. But as far as Imus
> > goes, he
> >   did insult a specific group of talented
> > indivduals, and
> >   deserved at least the 2 week suspention.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   HADZ (a.k.a. joe)
> >
> >   "Did you know...that when you walk past a flower,
> > whether it be in
> >   somebody's garden or on a vacant hillside, the
> > flower will always
> >   smile at you. The most polite way to respond, I've
> > been told, is
> >   to cheerfully return the smile."
> >   --Ron Atchison
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