[Rhodes22-list] Standard main rigging/ roller furling boom
Alan Robertson
bigal_61 at msn.com
Thu Aug 23 10:34:10 EDT 2007
Thanks Michael'
We've been doing everything you suggest below for years, except for the fastpin suggestion. I assume that this would insert into the mast at the top end of the slide cut out and could be inserted after the main is raised and removed when furling. No predrilled holes in ours however. Wonder if a 2" machine screw with a hex head which wouldn't fall out when boat is pitching would be a good choice?
Our poptop's mast end is secured via an original equipment fixed plastic block on the mast which takes a 1/4 inch threaded bolt secured by a wing nut. Stan's invention no doubt.
If you are sailing an' 81 model, I'll bet it was fabricated in the old N. Babylon plant on New Jersey Ave. as ours was. Stan and Rose delivered it on a Triad trailer to us upstate and overnighted at our house.
One thought re boom height though. We replaced our main 3 years ago with a new one from Lee Sails in Hong Kong; just sent them their serial number from our old original sail and it was supposed to be cut to exact same measurements. However, fabric is entirely different and I wonder if it stretches slightly causing boom to ride slightly lower, brushing top of raised poptop. Could be?
Al Robertson
P.S. The last time I was in Kings Park was in '62 visiting a mental patient in the hospital. Is the facility still there and in use?
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael D. Weisner<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Standard main rigging/ roller furling boom
Alan,
We have always liked having the poptop in the up position since standing
room in the cabin/galley was one of the main attractions way back in 1980
when we looked at the Rhodes 22. It is common for crew and mate to stand in
cabin while under sail - handy for retrieving gear or beverages as well.
If your boom hits the poptop while sailing then several items may need to be
checked. Most importantly you need to haul the sail up fully (head into the
wind and slack main sheet, first) which will tend to lift the boom slightly.
Second, you may need to place a fastpin in the mast (there should be a pair
of holes already there) to keep the boom from sliding down, causing the boom
to "lay" on the poptop. Lastly, make sure that the poptop slide is properly
engaged in the upper position stop. I also use a fastpin through the mast
below the poptop slider to secure the poptop so that the front does not fall
during rough seas.
As far as the LI geography, the Nissequogue River empties into the LI Sound
at Kings Park (north shore), not the Great South Bay (south shore.)
Yes, there's quite a story to the name mostly about how we crewed the first
years (trailering), best told at sea, over a beer.
Do you ever get down to the island? Let me know when you are in town.
Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com<mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com>> Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:05
PM
> QUESTION MICHAEL?
> WE NEVER SAIL WITH POP TOP UP; ONLY WHEN UNDER POWER. OUR BOOM WON'T
> MOVE WHEN POP TOP IS UP VERY WELL, WHEN JIBING OR COMING ABOUT. WHAT'S THE
> ADVANTAGE IF POP TOP IS UP EXCEPT TO GIVE FIRST MATE MORE HEADROOM WHEN
> MAKING LUNCH OR DRINKS. WOULD APPRECIATE A REPLY FROM ANY OF YOU FRESH AND
> SALT WATER SAILORS.
> AL ROBERTSON - SS THOR IV
> P.S. MICHAEL WE MOVED UP FROM MASSAPEQUA OVER 40 YEARS AGO SO LI GEOG. IS
> HAZY, BUT DOESN'T NISSAQUOGUE EMPTY INTO GREAT SOUTH BAY? YOUR BOAT'S NAME
> IS INTERESTING; IS THERE A STORY BEHIND IT?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael D. Weisner<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com>>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Standard main rigging/ roller furling boom
>
>
> For stronger winds, we normally drop the poptop and lower the boom first.
> Next we reef the main using the roller mechanism. As a last resort, we
> drop
> all cloth and motor in if the wind is above 25-30 kts or lots of
> unpredictable gusts.
>
> After 26+ years sailing a Rhodes we have nothing to prove...
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com<mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com<mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com%3Cmailto:bigal_61 at msn.com>>>
> Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:33 PM
> > Our '83 roller boom worked fine this past weekend. If it is balky to
> pull
> > back from the mast to release the roller mechanism, a shot of WD40 into
> > the mast end works fine for us. We reef rarely but rolling up 1/3 was
> all
> > we ever needed in 30 knot wind. Better to take in roller jib up to
> forward
> > stay also, to equalize tiller pressure and reduce tendency for boat to
> > head into the wind if only main is up in a strong wind. Now if wind
> more
> > than 25, we high tail it back to port dock!
> > Happy Sailing!
> > Alan Robertson
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> boom
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> > Mike Weisner helped me rig my boat last week. I just found out that I
> > have
> > the orig boom which in '81 was set up for roller furling. Have you
> had
> > any
> > problems with the mechanism inside the boom? All I can do is lube it
> > with
> > some lithium grease from a spray can. I still have some gear on order
> > before I can test the system.
> > Just curious as to how many Rhodies out there may have the original
> booms
> > from 1981 ??
> > Lou
> > Plans to finally launch my "project boat" Miracles next week!
> > and officially become s/v Miracles
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, I know that my mast/boom are not standard and are something
> > like a "tall rig" for the R22. The gooseneck is fixed and the boom
> > is set up for roller reefing (i.e. I roll the main around the boom to
> > reef).
> >
> > But send the photo and I can post it for you. My e-mailer seems to
> > do attachments compatible with the list.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > John Lock
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> > Lake Sinclair, GA
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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