[Rhodes22-list] Motor Won't Start, Now Charging

Sat Dec 15 08:37:43 EST 2007

Great advice from everyone, but I hadn't bugged Stan in awhile so I shot him
an email.

He responded the same day!!!

Typically if you have two batteries and two solar panels, each battery is
connected to its own panel.  One of my batteries is under the v-berth and
one under the aft end of the settee, so running the wire should be cheap and
simple.  We'll see.

I already own a trickle-charger for my motorcycle so my only costs will be
several thousand dollars worth of my labor.  Please don't tell me I need to
make a trip to West Marine for an overpriced charger specifically for a
marine battery.

If this doesn't work, Ed's attack on my manliness will force me to try to
replace the solenoid myself.  Should be able to complete that one by Spring.

Wish me luck!

Lee

3drecon wrote:
> 
> If the solar panels will handle it, it seems both batteries should be
> connected.  Batteries do well when they have a float charge while dormant.
> The charger will kick on and off as needed.  I think 13.2 volts is the
> trigger.  Otherwise, you could hook up a separate solar panel that you can
> put away when you use the boat; when you put in to the marina, you can
> hook
> it up again..  Northern tool or Harbor Freight has that type of stuff.
> 
> Philip
> 
> 
> "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that
> damage morale, and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be
> arrested, exiled or hanged."  -	~ President Abraham Lincoln
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Leland
> Sent:	Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:57 PM
> To:	rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject:	Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Won't Start, Now Charging
> 
> 
> Brad, Rummy, PT, John, Philip & Ed:  Great advice all around.  You've
> pretty
> much convinced me to let the marina fix it.
> 
> PT:  The battery hasn't been used in two weeks, but it has enough juice to
> power the motor lift winch.  Stan installed it and I assume it's a deep
> cycle marine battery.  Last winter it barely had a charge after not being
> used for two months.  The battery for the motor and lift is hard-wired to
> the motor and is its only means of getting charged.  My cabin battery is
> connected to two solar panels.
> 
> Would it make sense to have the solar panels connected to both batteries? 
> I
> assume there's a reason why Stan didn't set it up that way.  When my
> battery
> nearly died last year, the marina recommended that I trickle charge it
> each
> Spring before use.  Since it had enough juice to start the engine, I just
> motored around a little until it was fully charged.
> 
> Love my boat, hate my motor.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Thorn wrote:
>>
>> Lee,
>>
>> Brad sounds right.  How long has the battery been sitting not connected
>> to
>> a
>> charger?  Exactly what kind of battery?  Flooded deep cycle batteries
>> will
>> lose their charge and sulphate up by just sitting.  They can go bad just
>> by
>> sitting.  When being stored they must be connected to a trickle charge
>> source to keep them topped off and a desulphating device is a good idea
>> too.
>>
>>
>> Check out this site:
>> http://www.vdcelectronics.com/batteryminder_12117.htm
>> I've used one these for several years and they work great.
>>
>> PT
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:30 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Won't Start
>>
>> Lee,
>>
>> Two things come to mind.  Just because you have a fully charged battery
>> doesn't mean you have a good battery.  Try jumping the battery off your
>> car
>> or a riding mower and then try the starter.  If that doesn't work, you
>> may
>> very well have a corrosion issue.  Buy some Corrosion X at True Value
>> Hardware and spray all connections.  It almost has to be a current
>> problem,
>> ie, the battery isn't supplying enough or the starter isn't getting
>> enough
>> current because of a bad ground or feed wire due to a bad (corroded)
>> connection. Eliminate the battery issue first.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2007 6:14 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Here's a question for those more mechanically inclined than I; which
>>> should
>>> include just about everyone on this list.
>>>
>>> At the end of last season the electric start on my 2005 9.9 Mercury
>>> outboard
>>> quit working.  Plenty of juice in the battery but when I pressed the
>>> starter
>>> all I got was a clicking noise.  My marina's service department changed
>>> the
>>> wiring which cost a couple bucks in parts and an arm and a leg for
>>> labor.
>>>
>>> Tried to start my motor last night and it happened again.  Any advice?
>>> My
>>> wife recommended a little blue pill.  I'll fumble around with the wiring
>>> but
>>> from last year's labor charge I assume there's some major disassembling
>>> to
>>> get to the connections.  Just to connect the pull start requires a lot
>>> of
>>> breaking and entering.
>>>
>>> Should I expect this to happen every year?  I assume it's from saltwater
>>> corrosion.  I've had to clean the connections in the lazarette several
>>> times
>>> to get the motor lift to work.
>>>
>>> Any advice is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
>>> Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)
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